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Trump already granted Maduro's request to be sent to a sanctuary city! Nicky said I'll take New York, if I can make it there I'll make it anywhere! They just love their Socialists in the Big Apple! Mamdani is ready to offer him a job!
BAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Just received an update on this - Mamdani said Nicky's new job in NYC will be to run all of those new city-owned grocery stores and make sure their shelves stay as empty as the stores in Caracas!!
Is anyone here concerned about the message we’re sending to the world? Trump’s overthrow of the Venezuelan government doesn’t appear to be any different than Putin’s attempt to control Ukraine, or China’s attempts to control Taiwan or Tibet.
The Trump administration has thrown out 75 years of the rule of law and world order and moved us back to the days when governments would create spheres of colonialist power.
I fear that this new foreign policy of the Trump administration will lead to more armed conflict not less.
Oh dear! How are the poor fidelistas going to pay world market prices for all the oil they've been getting for free from Maduro?
Your typically glib concern is noted.
After all, those cars in Cuba were built in the US. According to the Turd Reich, that makes them ours along with all that free oil.
I hear they've got bacon in Canada ... maybe, just maybe...
Does your congressman know as much about this as you seem to? Oh, that's right, this was an illegal action... unauthorized, or unmentioned to Congress.
Suddenly, the administration is unconcerned with Somali gangsters...they've got the attention span of their Earless Leader. Unless of course, this is another distraction from something bigger and badder and more stupid to come.
Track record would suggest that would be a good bet.
That said, Trump would likely nod off during that action, too.
Is anyone here concerned about the message we’re sending to the world? Trump’s overthrow of the Venezuelan government doesn’t appear to be any different than Putin’s attempt to control Ukraine, or China’s attempts to control Taiwan or Tibet.
It's completely different. The governments of Ukraine and Taiwan were installed in free & fair elections. They are legitimate. Maduro rigged and stole multiple elections in Venezuela. He is completely illegitimate. And that's not just my opinion. It's the view of the European Union and 50+ countries that refuse to recognize Maduro's regime. For that matter, it was also the view of the Biden Administration.
The other fact that makes your analogy false is - Ukraine isn't shipping (forbidden topic) into Russia, killing tens of thousands of Russian citizens a year. Ditto for Taiwan. It's not threatening or killing anyone on the Chinese Mainland, either with weapons or (forbidden topic). There's no casus belli for either Russia or China.
Another big difference is - we're not invading Venezuela. We will help them stabilize and restore a free & fair democracy. But our presence will be light and unobtrusive, unlike Russia's genocidal scorched-earth war in Ukraine or any scenario under which China might attempt to take over Taiwan.
I'm dismayed that I even have to explain all of this to you. Now I will let Marco chime in:
It's completely different. The governments of Ukraine and Taiwan were installed in free & fair elections. They are legitimate. Maduro rigged and stole multiple elections in Venezuela. He is completely illegitimate. And that's not just my opinion. It's the view of the European Union and 50+ countries that refuse to recognize Maduro's regime. It was also the view of the Biden Administration.
The other fact that makes your analogy false is - Ukraine isn't shipping (forbidden topic) into Russia, killing tens of thousands of Russian citizens a year. Ditto for Taiwan. It's not threatening or killing anyone on the Chinese Mainland, either with weapons or (forbidden topic).
Another big difference is - we're not invading Venezuela. We will help them stabilize and restore a free & fair democracy. But our presence will be light and unobtrusive, unlike Russia's genocidal scorched-earth war in Ukraine or any scenario under which China might attempt to take over Taiwan.
I'm dismayed that I even have to explain all of this to you. Now I will let Marco chime in:
These are justifications for Trump’s actions. Some of them are even good justifications.
But what used to make the United States different from all the others was that we were part of a group that supported each other’s interests. In this case Trump has thrown away all our allies and made this decision unilaterally.
America has thrown away all unified justification for international military operations in favor of looking after its own interests.
The international order is breaking down under Trump. International law and international pressure from a global group of powers has given way to a new (or old) system of everyone for themselves.
That’s a recipe for more conflict not less. It gives justification for Russia and China and India and Israel to act aggressively against their neighbors in complete contravention of current international laws and norms.
What good are laws if there is no policemen to enforce them?
These are justifications for Trump’s actions. Some of them are even good justifications.
But what used to make the United States different from all the others was that we were part of a group that supported each other’s interests. In this case Trump has thrown away all our allies and made this decision unilaterally.
Was Obama wrong to have acted unilaterally when he ordered the 2010 Abbottabad mission to kill Osama bin Laden? Should he instead have put together an international Special Ops group with our allies? Would that have raised or lowered the mission's chance of success?
This is the story of a brutal, lying, election-fraudster who oppressed his nation for his own personal gain ….
And Maduro.
Let’s see what Congress has to say bout this unilateral incursion into a foreign nation with whom we are not at war.
I think Maduro needed to go, but why is it our fucking job to attack Venezuela with ground forces (Trump already lied about this) and captured its head of government.
How is this legal? Shirley they weren’t just running a warrant from 2020.
BIG QUESTION - Will the US now go after ALL brutal dictators or anybody the Trump administration considours a dictator? Like Ergodan? Or … PUTIN?
And awayyyyy we go.
SMMFH
so you think China would act? Cuba? not a chance bud! Trump did act.
cry away about "illegal war" nonsense we aren't giving him back.
^^^ Venezuelans look mostly happy that the dictator is gone.
The Presidential Guards in the photos can go look for another job.
Venezuela was a thriving country with a strong free enterprise economy and high standards of living making it one of the wealthiest country in Latin America with the lowest social inequality rate until Maduro took power and implemented his failed Socialist policies.
Now Venezuela is a dirt poor country with high unemployment rate, high crime, high cost of basic necessities, hyper inflation, people starving. 70% poverty rate, shortage of the most basic food.
Sure they have low gas prices at 19 cents at gallon but most Venezuelans can't afford the ownership and maintenance of any internal combustion engine machines nor the 19 cents per gallon of gasoline to power them.
Venezuela under Maduro is what the USA would had become in less than 2 years if President Trump lost the 2024 election.
uh no. Venezuela was a prosperous nation before that commie fucktard Chavez. Maduro was vp under Chavez.
Venezuela under Chavez and Maduro is a textbook example of the total failure that socialism is
Venezuela officially nationalized its oil industry in 1976 under President Carlos Andrés Pérez, establishing the state-owned Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), taking control from foreign companies like Exxon and Shell to gain full sovereignty over its vast resources. Later, under President Hugo Chávez, a second wave of nationalization in the 2000s forced foreign firms into minority stakes or outright asset seizures, leading to severed ties, expropriation lawsuits, and a decline in production due to lost investment and technical expertise.
Chávez reversed the 1990s trend of opening the sector, requiring PDVSA to hold majority ownership in projects. Foreign operators were forced into minority positions or saw assets seized, especially in the Orinoco Belt. Major U.S. firms like ExxonMobil and ConocoPhillips exited, leading to international arbitration and billions in compensation awards Venezuela failed to pay.
No, txdot is spot on and you're just What Abouting it.
Apples and oranges, as you know...
Not at all. Both missions (OBL and Maduro) were highly complex military operations executed by Special Op forces. Both put a premium on secrecy in order to succeed. Afterwards, Obama dismissed suggestions that he should have tipped off allies about the OBL raid. It is similarly absurd to suggest Trump should have enlisted the support of our allies to extract and bring Maduro to justice. Doing so would have jeopardized the mission's chances for success.
Our European allies have no interest in helping us clean up our own backyard anyway. They have nothing to bring to the table here, and nothing to gain. As for our Latin American allies, I am certain some of them will be deeply involved, under Marco Rubio's guidance, in helping to stabilize Venezuela going forward.
Millions of people now and in the past 250 years have dreamt of coming to The United States Of America:
most of them never achieve that dream in their entire lifetime.
This Maduro guy gets a free all expenses paid trip to The United States Of America and to New York City.
Then when everything is settled and done, he will be accommodated into a top notch first class facility complete with free health care, 3 free fine cuisine meals a day, free air conditioning and running water and electricity, in a place where he will make plenty of friends, most likely Beautiful Colorado, Spacious Florida or God's Country North Carolina.
Our tax money of about $70,000 a year will go toward keeping him nicely situated.
Maduro should be forever grateful of the GENEROSITY of The United States Of America!
The United States Of America Is Strong Again and #1 Again thanks to President Trump, NO Thanks To #44 and #46.
