Bye Bye Venezuela Dictator

[offshoredrilling]

Florida Venezuelans celebrate Maduro's capture

South Florida Venezuelans react to Maduro capture. (WPEC)

[Yssup Rider]

Venezuelan expats and refugees are celebrating all over the world.

I'm surprised so many would show their faces in the US. Didn't Trump already expel them all?

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by CG2014

You might want to re-read my post especially the part where I wrote


which is the authorization an officer needs to act in another jurisdiction

Perhaps you mean
Mutual Aid Agreements: Local law enforcement agencies often have formal, written interjurisdictional agreements that allow officers to operate and make arrests within each other's areas under specified conditions.

and I repeat my question

What agencies in Venezuela collaborated with US agencies to arrest (and/or extradite) Maduro?

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Florida Venezuelans celebrate Maduro's capture

South Florida Venezuelans react to Maduro capture. (WPEC)

Very odd.
Per DJT, Venezuelan immigrants came from mental institutions, jails, prisons (which are different, you know), drug kingpins, gang bangers, TDA...the worst of the worst
"They sent everybody bad into the United States"

I find it odd that these folks, especially those criminals sent here to destroy the US, would celebrate Maduro's arrest.

Perhaps a large number of Venezuelan immigrants are actually decent people?

[RX792P]

Trump has 'dismissed' Nobel Peace Prize winner María Corina Machado as a valid candidate for Venezuelan leadership.

Would this be so bad?
(well, maybe for Trump)

Months before the U.S. military arrested Venezuela’s Nicolás Maduro, opposition leader María Corina Machado called for what she described as the most ambitious economic transformation in the nation’s history—a sweeping privatization aimed at reversing his policies and what she calls “the disaster this socialist system has wrought.”

https://news.yahoo.com/news/finance/...015137730.html

[CG2014]

Maduro did dared us to go and get him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99mKbW-kJ1E

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by CG2014

Maduro did dared us to go and get him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99mKbW-kJ1E

Did he?

Seems to be some question here. As usual, YMMV
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...071549646.html

Does a video show Venezuela's president, Nicolás Maduro, reacting to the $50M bounty announced August 7, 2025 by the US Department of State by challenging the Trump administration to come and get him at the presidential palace? No, that is NOT true: The video shows Maduro giving a speech on July 30th, 2024, after a self-declared victory in the presidential race and calling his opponent a "coward," after opposition leaders and candidate Edmundo González Urrutia questioning the results. González, a diplomat and politician, criticized the Venezuelan government for not releasing official election results and challenged Nicolás Maduro's announced victory.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by RX792P

Trump has 'dismissed' Nobel Peace Prize winner María Corina Machado as a valid candidate for Venezuelan leadership.

Would this be so bad?
(well, maybe for Trump)

Months before the U.S. military arrested Venezuela’s Nicolás Maduro, opposition leader María Corina Machado called for what she described as the most ambitious economic transformation in the nation’s history—a sweeping privatization aimed at reversing his policies and what she calls “the disaster this socialist system has wrought.”

https://news.yahoo.com/news/finance/...015137730.html

Why is that Trumps call to make?

[RX792P]

I don't think it is...but Trump apparently thinks it's his call.

“We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition,”

Choices appear to be Rubio/Hegseth (people that are standing right behind me), Delsey Rodriguez, Edmundo Gonzalez

Though others are now 'reinterpreting' Trump's claims...
Tom Cotton

“When the president said the United States is going to be running Venezuela, it means that the new leaders of Venezuela need to meet our demands,”

Marco Rubio

“What’s going to happen here is we have a quarantine on their oil, that means their economy will not be able to move forward until the conditions that are in the national interest of the United States and the interests of the Venezuelan people are met, and that’s what we intend to do,”
“Well, it’s not running. It’s running policy, the policy with regard to this. We want Venezuela to move in a certain direction.”

[pxmcc]

Rubio is trying to spin this to make it all look normal. well, it's far from freaking normal..

a law enforcement operation is maybe defensible. taking over another country to steal its fossil fuel resources and enrich American companies? not so much..

oil firms will be highly reticent to blow billions on this iffy of a prospect..

[CG2014]

Remember that Biden Harris administration put a $25 million bounty on Maduro.


To those who are going to scream I am making it up, these are from January 10th, 2025.


10 days before President Trump took office and Biden was still sleeping in the Oval Office.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9ezyw0keo


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/w...as-maduro.html


the case against Venezuela goes back to early 2010s


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...%C3%A1s_Maduro

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by CG2014

The usual democrats in congress are calling this an act of war and complaining Congress was not consulted for their approval to use the U.S. military.

This was not an act of war. This was not any different than the police executing an arrest warrant at the residence of the person named on the arrest warrant.

Congressional approval is not required.

Okay. Serving a warrant. *BUT*....

Originally Posted by RX792P

Comparison

Former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez: convicted...



Venezuelan President Nicolas Madura: indicted...

Trump comment
"If you have some drug dealers in your country, and you're the president, you don't necessarily put the president jail for 45 years."

Big diffence between indicted and convicted.

It really doesn't help the maggie cause with donny sending conflicting signals about things related to drugs.

Only thing clear is that he wants $$$$

Originally Posted by RX792P

Question on the comparison: Can a New York police officer execute an arrest warrant at a residence in California?

Originally Posted by CG2014

^^^ Yes he can. Police agencies work with other agencies both local, state, county and federal to pursue, arrest and extratide fugitives.


To answer your question, a NY police officer can go to Los Angeles to pursue and arrest a criminal wanted in NY just like a police officer in Ohio can come to Dallas to pursue and arrest a criminal wanted in Ohio.


It's called interagency collaboration

Originally Posted by RX792P

You might want to check your answer.
An officer's commission and general arrest powers end at state lines. An Ohio officer cannot simply drive to Texas and act as a Texas peace officer without specific authorization.


https://www.cohenwinters.com/can-i-b...fferent-state/

OTOH, there is a process called extradition



What agencies in Venezuela collaborated with US agencies to arrest (and/or extradite) Maduro?

...and *THERE* is where CG argument falls on its face.
And he has been busy dancing himself to exhaustion ducking it since he knows he is wrong.

Just try the guy in absentia if he doesn't want to send legal representation to court. But we all know it is more than what CG and other maggies are hiding behind...and that is a thin sapling of justification to make an elephant disappear.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Dear CG. This meme is particularly insulting.

The no Kings protesters aren’t supporting a Venezuelan Dictator, They’re opposing an American Dictator.

Whose dictatorial actions are plainly displayed by moving WAY BEYOND his excuse to send soldiers to another country.

Originally Posted by RX792P

Perhaps you mean
Mutual Aid Agreements: Local law enforcement agencies often have formal, written interjurisdictional agreements that allow officers to operate and make arrests within each other's areas under specified conditions.

and I repeat my question

What agencies in Venezuela collaborated with US agencies to arrest (and/or extradite) Maduro?

Still waiting CG.

Originally Posted by RX792P

Very odd.
Per DJT, Venezuelan immigrants came from mental institutions, jails, prisons (which are different, you know), drug kingpins, gang bangers, TDA...the worst of the worst
"They sent everybody bad into the United States"

I find it odd that these folks, especially those criminals sent here to destroy the US, would celebrate Maduro's arrest.

Perhaps a large number of Venezuelan immigrants are actually decent people?

Ima gonna sit back and wait for this explaination

Originally Posted by pxmcc

Rubio is trying to spin this to make it all look normal. well, it's far from freaking normal..

a law enforcement operation is maybe defensible. taking over another country to steal its fossil fuel resources and enrich American companies? not so much..

oil firms will be highly reticent to blow billions on this iffy of a prospect..

Grifting is so ingrained into the maggie culture, they will just give you a stupid stare whenever it is brought up. Forget about them giving a legal reason for doing it. But hey, i'm game to listen to another faux justification for stealing.

Originally Posted by CG2014

Remember that Biden Harris administration put a $25 million bounty on Maduro.


To those who are going to scream I am making it up, these are from January 10th, 2025.


10 days before President Trump took office and Biden was still sleeping in the Oval Office.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9ezyw0keo


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/w...as-maduro.html


the case against Venezuela goes back to early 2010s


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...%C3%A1s_Maduro

So? Different administrations have done it. Just show me where the greater percentage is successful in such actions. To the contrary, it just accelerates that conditions in said places where we do it.




I saw the writing on the wall in the past and posted it. I really wish it didn't come true.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Not at all. Both missions (OBL and Maduro) were highly complex military operations executed by Special Op forces. Both put a premium on secrecy in order to succeed. Afterwards, Obama dismissed suggestions that he should have tipped off allies about the OBL raid. It is similarly absurd to suggest Trump should have enlisted the support of our allies to extract and bring Maduro to justice. Doing so would have jeopardized the mission's chances for success.

Our European allies have no interest in helping us clean up our own backyard anyway. They have nothing to bring to the table here, and nothing to gain. As for our Latin American allies, I am certain some of them will be deeply involved, under Marco Rubio's guidance, in helping to stabilize Venezuela going forward.

OTOH

“Before and after,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Sunday when asked if he’d spoken with oil executives or perhaps “tipped them off” about the operation. “They want to go in, and they’re going to do a great job for the people of Venezuela.”

[RX792P]

Trump
"We’re going to have our very large U.S. oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, oil infrastructure, and start making money for the country,"

Chevron
"Chevron remains focused on the safety and well-being of our employees, as well as the integrity of our assets,"

ConocoPhillips
"It would be premature to speculate on any future business activities or investments,"

ExxonMobil
Did not immediately respond

[Yssup Rider]

Who's the liar there?

A. Trump
B. Oil companies
C. All of the above