What constitutes "Vehicular Assault" as a criminal ct?

[nycinthusiast]

just here to say anyone defending a the person who murdered someone... real assholes. the lot of ya

[Budman]

Who was murdered?

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by Budman

He was just doing his job and if the stupid fucking leftist protesters would stay out of the fucking way none of this would have happened. Please keep demonizing the police and defending criminals because that just shows how out of touch ya'll are. Poor Renee Good. The stupid fucking cunt should have followed the officers orders.

Spare us the simplistic MAGA misrepresentations and false accusations.

I'm not "demonizing the police." Never have. I've also never "defended criminals."

You obviously are either ignoring the facts of the video or joining in supporting the lies about them.

Whether she was actually there in protest or just "in the way", one thing is clear: she didn't do anything that justified shooting her.

Calling it "murder" might be more accurate than calling it "self defense" at this point.

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[Mort Watt]

"Real" Police, i.e. ones that get real Poh-leece training and care about protecting the public, have gotta be losing their fucking minds when they see this video. This shooting was inexcusable.

The AP had a story about LE guidelines for use of deadly force against someone in a motor vehicle. This statement was most interesting:

" Justice Department policy says deadly force is allowed only when no reasonable alternative exists, including stepping out of the vehicle’s path."

https://apnews.com/article/ice-minne...93b4c76e6f6a03

People like Trump and Noem are the most to blame for this. They are putting these poorly-trained wannabe soldiers in confrontational situations with the public hoping like hell that people will fuck up and allow them to justify doing things like this. And MAGA hatred and fealty supports that fully.

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[Budman]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

There has been ZERO so far that show anything like her being an "agitator."

Meanwhile, we have lying cocksucker JD Vance saying "Do you think this officer was wrong in defending his life against a deranged leftist who tried to run him over?"

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I told you she was an agitator. She was interfering with an ICE operation and FAFO what happens.


https://nypost.com/2026/01/08/us-new...fore-shooting/


MINNEAPOLIS — Renee Nicole Good, the mom who was killed by a federal agent after veering her car toward him, was an anti-ICE “warrior” and was part of a group of activists who worked to “document and resist” the federal immigration crackdown in Minnesota, The Post can reveal.
Good, who moved to the city last year, linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her 6-year-old son’s woke charter school, which boasts that it puts “social justice first” and prioritizes “involving kids in political and social activism,” multiple local sources said.
“She was a warrior. She died doing what was right,” a mother named Leesa, whose child attends the same school, told The Post at a growing vigil where Good was killed Wednesday.

[Mort Watt]

You called her one before there was anything like this available showing that she was. You were just lucky that your assumption was correct.

But none of that really matters.

I know that your fealty to Trump requires you to blindly support anything that happens as a result of his dementia.

But still...

The last I knew, it was kind of a tradition to oppose governmental actions that one found unacceptable. Maybe even...God forbid...it was protected by the Constitution.

It seems to me that this may have been what she thought she was doing.

So...please explain then...HOW THE FUCK SHE DESERVED TO BE SHOT FOR IT?

Cuz ya know what we STILL don't see in that video? Anything that indicates use of deadly force against her was justified. Not a damn thing.

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[Budman]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

You called her one before there was anything like this available showing that she was. You were just lucky that your assumption was correct.


Wrong. I had seen reports of her being an agitator before I read this article. It's not luck, it's common fucking sense. Which obviously you don't have.

But none of that really matters.


You say it doesn't matter only because you were wrong.

I know that your fealty to Trump requires you to blindly support anything that happens as a result of his dementia.

But still...

The last I knew, it was kind of a tradition to oppose governmental actions that one found unacceptable. Maybe even...God forbid...it was protected by the Constitution.


Protesting is one thing. Interfering with law enforcement doing their jobs is another thing altogether.

It seems to me that this may have been what she thought she was doing.


More speculation on your part.

So...please explain then...HOW THE FUCK SHE DESERVED TO BE SHOT FOR IT?


She didn't follow the orders given and tried to drive into an ICE agent. When the media slows the video down it seems rather benign. However at full speed the agent had a spit second to react. You can question his reaction only because hindsight is 2020. She could have avoided all this if she just followed orders.

Cuz ya know what we STILL don't see in that video? Anything that indicates use of deadly force against her was justified. Not a damn thing.


You only see what you want to see.

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You and most on the left love to claim we have fealty to Trump and he can do no wrong in our eyes. That isn't accurate but the reverse is no matter what Trump does you and the lefties will claim he was wrong. TDS has so clouded your viewpoint that you can't see the forest thru the trees.

[Mort Watt]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jesus Christ.

Talk about only see what you want to see.

Fuck this.

I knew how this would go. Denial. Then insults.

But then everyone would believe you because you used all bold, red font. Always wins.

Hey bud? There ain't no one talking here but you and me. No one reads this sum-forum. I only came here because the MN shooting thread got moved by the Mod.

But this is fucking stupid. Post a last rude and insulting if you want. It's what you do. That and kiss Trump's big fat lying ass.

I'm out.

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[Budman]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jesus Christ.

Talk about only see what you want to see.

Fuck this.

I knew how this would go. Denial. Then insults.

But then everyone would believe you because you used all bold, red font. Always wins.

Hey bud? There ain't no one talking here but you and me. No one reads this sum-forum. I only came here because the MN shooting thread got moved by the Mod.

But this is fucking stupid. Post a last rude and insulting if you want. It's what you do. That and kiss Trump's big fat lying ass.

I'm out.

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It sucks when you get your ass handed to you doesn't it? Have a great weekend.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Budman

I told you she was an agitator. She was interfering with an ICE operation and FAFO what happens.


https://nypost.com/2026/01/08/us-new...fore-shooting/


MINNEAPOLIS — Renee Nicole Good, the mom who was killed by a federal agent after veering her car toward him, was an anti-ICE “warrior” and was part of a group of activists who worked to “document and resist” the federal immigration crackdown in Minnesota, The Post can reveal.
Good, who moved to the city last year, linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her 6-year-old son’s woke charter school, which boasts that it puts “social justice first” and prioritizes “involving kids in political and social activism,” multiple local sources said.
“She was a warrior. She died doing what was right,” a mother named Leesa, whose child attends the same school, told The Post at a growing vigil where Good was killed Wednesday.

... Hey mate - go watch the new video - from the ICE shooter's cam.
Then you'll see the TRUTH - that she drove right into him.
On purpose.

#### Salty

[RX792P]

... Hey mate - go watch the new video - from the ICE shooter's cam.
Then you'll see the TRUTH - that she drove right into him.
On purpose.

OK
https://x.com/AlphaNews/status/2009679932289626385

Look at the video at 38 seconds to 41 seconds.
Good can clearly be seen turning the steering wheel to the right...that is, away from the officer at the left front of the Pilot.

It is not clear from the video if the car actually contacted the officer...but any contact was not enough to dislodge the phone he was recording with from his hand, as the video shows the car continuing down the street until it strikes another car and pole.

Notable that Breitbart's Nolte misreports also.

As the ICE agent in question attempts to walk around the SUV, apparently to assist his colleague in removing the poet from her vehicle, you can see that her tires are aimed screen right. Then she backs up while turning her tires to screen left, which aims the SUV directly at the ICE agent. Then she hits the gas and hits the agent. This is when the ICE agent, who had no choice, shoots her in an obvious case of self-defense.

Turning the 'tires to screen left' as backing up would point the nose of the car to the right...the officer was moving/standing to the left front of the car.
Nolte also fails to mention that Good turned the steering wheel right before moving forward.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...-run-him-over/


Still a long way to go in this case....IMO both parties are at fault for the tragedy.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by Budman

It sucks when you get your ass handed to you doesn't it? Have a great weekend.

FUCK this bullshit. I might have said you could have the last word, but it doesn't mean I have to put up with your nonsense about how this went down. Your bold red font don't mean shit.

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[RX792P]

I guess we've been lucky there haven't been more deaths.

Tricia McLaughlin, assistant secretary for public affairs for the Department of Homeland Security said people using vehicles as weapons against law enforcement is up 3,200%.

"We've seen 10 of these in the last 72 hours," she added. "We've seen hundreds in the last year."

If McLaughlin is not exaggerating, it would appear at least 10 people or so are lucky to not have been fired upon by various enforcement agencies.
Maybe hundreds over the last year.


https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/t...09/id/1241568/

[yeahsurewhatev]

Originally Posted by RX792P

OK
https://x.com/AlphaNews/status/2009679932289626385

Look at the video at 38 seconds to 41 seconds.
Good can clearly be seen turning the steering wheel to the right...that is, away from the officer at the left front of the Pilot.

It is not clear from the video if the car actually contacted the officer...but any contact was not enough to dislodge the phone he was recording with from his hand, as the video shows the car continuing down the street until it strikes another car and pole.

Notable that Breitbart's Nolte misreports also.



Turning the 'tires to screen left' as backing up would point the nose of the car to the right...the officer was moving/standing to the left front of the car.
Nolte also fails to mention that Good turned the steering wheel right before moving forward.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...-run-him-over/


Still a long way to go in this case....IMO both parties are at fault for the tragedy.

So, if it's not clear the car actually contacted Ross, and the rest of your analysis indicates Good tried to avoid him, how is she at fault?

And, I wish everyone would stop calling this a tragedy. A tragedy is when a tree branch falls and kills somebody. This was a killing that might have been a murder.

[Budman]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

FUCK this bullshit. I might have said you could have the last word, but it doesn't mean I have to put up with your nonsense about how this went down. Your bold red font don't mean shit.

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Damn. It seems like somebody is having a bad day. It's understandable you would be embarassed by your TDS and lack of common sense. Just relax. Maybe take a nap and cuddle with your teddy bear.