Greenland story

[VitaMan]

What is the full story on Trump wanting to take Greenland ?


It is not a good look with our NATO allies. Congress is having trouble with it. Trump's approval rrating may fall below 36 %.


Is Trump now talking about buying Greenland, or taking it with force ?

[Budman]

I think he should trade Minnesota for Greenland. Then we could put a border wall around Minnesota and keep all the fucking morons lock away.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by Budman

I think he should trade Minnesota for Greenland. Then we could put a border wall around Minnesota and keep all the fucking morons lock away.

What you don't realize is that there's already a border wall being built...around the entire United States. But it's to lock us away. Global trade is shifting to remove dependence on the US, be lucky if the dollar is the global currency standard with 3 more years of dumbass in office.


He's being played by Putin, period. China is hoping he takes action, so they can take Taiwan (which would fuck our armed forces, btw)...the way the idiot is going, places may just refuse to sell to the US. If we were cut off for a year, we'd be 5 years behind in military advancements compared to China.

[Budman]

You have a lot of "ifs" in there. I'll bet you $1,000.00 that the dollar will still be the global currency in 3 years. Being played by Putin? Back to Russia, Russia, Russia? I thought Trump was a Russian agent.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by Budman

You have a lot of "ifs" in there. I'll bet you $1,000.00 that the dollar will still be the global currency in 3 years. Being played by Putin? Back to Russia, Russia, Russia? I thought Trump was a Russian agent.

He is being played by Putin. The US has agreements to put whatever military bases/equipment we want there, as well mining and exploration rights. He's pissed he didn't get a prize and behaving like the pissy little kid he really is.


If he tries to take Greenland, best case, the US is just kicked out of NATO. Good for Russia.
Worst case, the US is at war with NATO. Better for Russia.


European nations are already cancelling orders for US weapons systems. You DO understand that means millions in lost revenue for those companies, right?


Canada inked deals with China...want to make that bet about how many BYD cars are bought in Canada vs Teslas? You do realize that's lost revenue to another US company, right?


Do you know what companies do when they lose revenue??


Now to address your Russian agent comment. If Trump's IQ quadrupled he still wouldn't be smart enough to be a Russian agent.


He's fucking every ally we have, turning the entire world against us...all while Putin laughs his ass off. Maybe France, Spain, England and Mexico will decide they want their old property in North America back.

[Mort Watt]

Easy there, 69er....

MAGA is just doing what they are told...distracting from the real issue. And if they mention the "Russia, Russia" inanity whenever the country is brought up, I think they get some kind of special prize...maybe discounts on leftover Melania meme coins...

This is because his words around this are absolutely indefensible. No one can think that this is at all justified or logical.

He has been asked multiple times to tone the Greenland rhetoric down. He only doubles down. And is further enabled by assholes like Vance...and now even fucking Bessent!

As for the statement that we will be "kicked out" of NATO...Nah. There will be no NATO left. The UN will then fall. These are primary goals of his.

(watch for the "fuck the UN...we SHOULD get out!" cheerleading to start now)

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[VitaMan]

Hope we can get some sensible posts and information.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Hope we can get some sensible posts and information.

Please do not think I am using the usual deflection tactic that MAGA uses here when I suggest that you spend some time looking this up. Everyone is talking about it. Pick something with thorough, relatively unbiased political coverage, like the WSJ.

Again, no one objective or reasonable thinks that his methods here are sound.

He is offering to buy. He has been told bluntly that it is not for sale.

He says he would be justified in taking it. No one agrees.

And the worst part is....everyone is telling him that he doesn't NEED to do either one...that he can do almost anything there militarily that he wants...all with their blessing!

Plain and simple, he is causing tension and concern when he does not need to.

It's fucking crazy.

If you still think that maybe you aren't getting anything "sensible" here, I will be bold enough to make the following prediction: no one will refute anything I have said in this particular post. Not with anything reasoned or unbiased, anyway. Even the usual Trump apologists.

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[Budman]

Originally Posted by 69in2it69

If he tries to take Greenland, best case, the US is just kicked out of NATO. Good for Russia.
Worst case, the US is at war with NATO

Kicked out of NATO. You can't be serious. I'm sure the French will step up and protect the world.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

Plain and simple, he is causing tension and concern when he does not need to.

It's fucking crazy.
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Yes, It’s fucking Crazy.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Geeze, no one here has mentioned that Greenland a a nice stash of minerals. Of course that's what folks are thinking about, even when using other excuses.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Budman

Kicked out of NATO. You can't be serious. I'm sure the French will step up and protect the world.

Who knows? The germans grab alot of tech from them to design their U-boats. Maybe they got something up their sleeves. Those rascally wine swilling, cheese eating, surrender monkeys.

[69in2it69]

Originally Posted by Budman

Kicked out of NATO. You can't be serious. I'm sure the French will step up and protect the world.

NATO...it's not a country, it's an alliance. And regarding France:


Nuclear Arsenal and Capabilities

Nuclear Weapons

• France has approximately 290 nuclear warheads, which are delivered via a combination of land-based missiles and submarine-launched systems.
• Its primary delivery systems include the M51 submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) and the ASMP-A air-to-surface missile.

Development of Nuclear Weapons

• France began its nuclear program in the 1940s, conducting its first successful nuclear test in 1960 in Algeria, known as "Gerboise Bleue."
• The program was developed to ensure national security and to maintain its status as a major global power during the Cold War.

• France is a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) and supports disarmament efforts while maintaining its own nuclear weapons for deterrence.

• France’s nuclear capability contributes to its role in NATO and European security frameworks, providing a strategic deterrent within the alliance.

France is #3 in nuclear weapons. The UK is also in the top 5. How many nukes do you think it takes to bring the US to it's knees? I'd say less than 1...it's likely multiple adversaries (not allies) could take down our power grid, that would collapse the US in a week.


The US has the strongest, most capable military in the world. But it's nothing compared to EVERY other military tuned against it. And the distrust Trump is sowing with our closest friends will last long after the fat fuck is DEAD. THAT IS THE PART MAGAs MISS.

[Yssup Rider]

So what I’m reading here is that some of our local MAGAs think it’s all good bullshit to throw the whole world into chaos at the expense of our Earless Leader.

I think this is likely going to be just another Trump distraction.

Unless of course someone (like Congress) pushes back. And then his fragile ego will prevent him from backing down. And then what?

He’s the embodiment of your values and morals, MAGAs. Own it.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So what I’m reading here is that some of our local MAGAs think it’s all good bullshit to throw the whole world into chaos at the expense of our Earless Leader.

I think this is likely going to be just another Trump distraction.

Unless of course someone (like Congress) pushes back. And then his fragile ego will prevent him from backing down. And then what?

He’s the embodiment of your values and morals, MAGAs. Own it.

Damn straight, Skippy.

He's already TACO this one too.