Human trafficking? What are they talking about?

[SnackyChan]

Originally Posted by Spoljana

Just to be clear here: dude gets warned by a mod about disrespect, yet comes back with disrespect. Quotes a post that wasn't even directed towards him. Serious unhinged behavior! Believe it or not, companions actually screen based on your posts in coed.

I'm sure that's why you're pulling back your stance. Even you realize providers probably don't want to get EXPLOITED by the likes of you or AL. Good luck recovering from this tho.

Originally Posted by Spoljana

There have been numerous posts about busts related to human trafficking. Please go and direct your vileness to those people as well

Vileness? Excuse me, you initially came at me with claptrap about being sanctimonious and holier than thou for speaking out against trafficking. If you agree, then what's all the fuss about?

Your statement about whether I "interview the providers" was a clear attempt to provoke a reaction, and you got it. Don't be a bitch after you get BTFO over BS that you started. Your stance on the matter was made clear here.

Speaking of pointless arguments, you and AL are the ones who constantly start drama on this "hooker board" over race, then accuse others of being "obsessed with race". Whatabout white serial killers, whatabout mamisans, whatabout whatabout whatabout. Plenty of people here are sick of fallacious arguments, gaslighting, and black victimhood. Take your own advice and take that shit over to Twitter/X Facebook.

Originally Posted by Spoljana

Anthonylewis, myself, and others in this thread have all stated that we would never knowingly see a lady who is trafficked. But we have all mentioned that there is no fail safe way to determine. AL asked you to provide pointers to help us all. But you insisted on name calling, and did nothing to help the community.

No, actually you/AL never said you wouldn't ever knowingly see a trafficked lady. Good to know, but your words now betray your previous statements. In fact, the entire crux of your argument is that it is NOT possible to avoid seeing trafficked women here. Otherwise you wouldn't have mocked me with statements like "He only pays for sex with good, righteous girls". Your admission that many of the "indy" are actually trafficked, means that you ARE aware that many of the women you've seen are trafficked. You following, sport?

Also, your statement about AL graciously asking me to "provide pointers for help" demonstrates your true disingenous character. The condescension in AL's request is undeniable, yet here you are trying to revision it as legitimate. Anyone can go back and read the posts. Are you even capable of feeling shame?

And of course, my intention was to do nothing to help the community. Sure bud. I think it helps the community to speak out against human trafficking. People like you and AL who are indubitably proud of exploiting women, and mock those who speak out against trafficking are the ones tarnishing and stigmatize the community.

Originally Posted by Spoljana

Yes, I went thru your reviews only to prove a point: I research. Kudos to you…you write good reviews, and in fact, I am scheduling a lady you have seen based off of your review.

I own the fact that I posted that I’m following the South Dallas thing closely. I should’ve explained more in detail why. We should all follow issues like that to keep ourselves safe. For the umpteenth time, I have never seen a studio/AMP girl. I have never seen a LC latina. I cannot say that those ladies are trafficked, but deductive reasoning gives a higher probability that they are vs. an Indy lady. But, who am I to judge those that do? By proxy, we aren’t Boy Scouts nor saints. For your sanity, I suggest that you do the same as well.

What kind of brainrot would have someone calling a place where sexual slavery may have been discovered "the spot". Very curious.

Originally Posted by Spoljana

Honestly, I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think about me. If you and the other dude that was aggressive towards me think that I’m a monster, that’s a you issue, not a me issue. I’ve given this far more attention than I should. I want the best for all of us. Dudes are looking to get laid while women are looking to get paid. And neither groups should end up in jail

If you don't care about what I think or say, then sit the fuck down. As the lyricists Youngbloodz once said, "Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit".

[dipindots]

Originally Posted by DathBane1986

Some of y'all just can’t pass up a chance to mention Trump, Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing. Bill Clinton and others sure looked comfortable in those pictures with Epstein, let’s not forget about them as well.

sick whataboutism bro

[cosoj]

Even before the human trafficking law was enacted, I knew LE would use it as probable cause to arrest the customers. I read the statute after they tried to bust the owner of the New England Patriots. My reaction was holy crap, don't even offer to drive a provider, and don't take one on a trip. Senator John Cornyn wrote the statute, and clearly, it was aimed at slowing the sex trade at the expense of the customer. A friend told me they raided her place of work in Boise, Idaho, released her because she was a victim, and later subpoenaed her to testify, I guess, against the owner. It's like the Man Act on steriods.

[SnackyChan]

According to whitehouse.gov:
January 23, 2026 the President signed into law:

H.R. 4323, the “Trafficking Survivors Relief Act,” which establishes a process to allow human trafficking victims to file motions to vacate their convictions and expunge their arrest records for certain criminal offenses committed as a direct result of their being trafficked

Further: ...defendant must establish the offenses were committed under duress by demonstrating the defendant was a trafficking victim at the time of the offense, according to the congressional summary.

Seems like trafficking victims should have never been convicted in the first place, but a step in the right direction nonetheless. Ostensibly they are going after the pimp/ringleader.

[Chloé Montclair]

Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

Secondly, there are independent ladies. Truly independent ladies who hire assistants. If I say BANANAS to the assistant she has no reason to pass it on to the lady. How do we address that?

Not trying to hijack the thread with a somewhat off-topic question, I'm just curious about the thoughts around that. I've been toying around with the idea of hiring an assistant. Is this something that's generally frowned upon?

From the perspective of someone who previously worked for an agency, and is now independent, personally I think there is a distinction. For instance, if I do decide to hire an assistant, she would be working for me, and not the other way around.

I am curious to hear thoughts from a gentleman's perspective.

[SnackyChan]

Originally Posted by Chloé Montclair

Not trying to hijack the thread with a somewhat off-topic question, I'm just curious about the thoughts around that. I've been toying around with the idea of hiring an assistant. Is this something that's generally frowned upon?

From the perspective of someone who previously worked for an agency, and is now independent, personally I think there is a distinction. For instance, if I do decide to hire an assistant, she would be working for me, and not the other way around.

I am curious to hear thoughts from a gentleman's perspective.

Notwithstanding the potential for it being a trafficking situation, in other words, removing that element, and she is truly independent just needing help with screening, new client verifications, communicating, and booking, here's my take on it:

If it's a one-and-done provider, it doesn't really matter to me. I would be none the wiser.

OTOH if she is a regular of mine, then it does pose an issue for me if she doesn't tell me. I could be PMing her sensitive information thinking it's just between us, but I'm actually communiucating with some dude who works for her.

The problem is that the client is not consenting to the sharing of info with a person they don't know. It could be personal info about their family, illicit substances, etc and now a third-party is privileged to all that.

This exposes the client to a number of potential dangers. Let's say hypothetically the provider gets caught up in a sting, and LE is pressuring her to give up her "pimp". We all know these detectives can make a career for a trafficking indictment. A dishonest provider could try to save themself by throwing the assistant under the bus. Now the investigation has turned up with more funding and time for trafficking. Detectives will uncover all these communications with clients.

Another hypothetical: Imagine the assistant has nefarious motives. They could blackmail or extort the client and there's nothing you or the client could do anything about.

Of course these are just thought experiments and just looking at the "what ifs". I take opsec seriously, but I can't rely on others to do the same so I have to consider the extremes.

In case mongers and providers don't think it could happen to them, check out this crime case: A provider's boyfriend got a hold of her rich client's info, extorted the client behind provider's back for $25k, client hires hitmen and spends almost a million bucks to unalive provider and boyfriend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEGzKmvATqM

[TinMan]

The one regular I can remember who hired an assistant after we met made sure to have a separate email address and phone number that was used in all her ads. Once screening was cleared and a date was set she called or texted from her own number.

The arrangement didn’t last long. I think part of the problem was she already had a bunch of regulars who still called her directly (I was one of them), so there was constant issues with overbooking, when should the assistant be paid for a booking and other coordination issues.

[purplepatch]

Originally Posted by Spoljana

You picked apart most of my posts…yet your inability to comprehend all of it. I will spell it out for you since you don’t get it:

2. I live on the south side of Dallas. Any bust (or potential) of any sort definitely pops up on my radar. Do I plan on seeing any there? No. Am I interested in what goes on there? You bet your ass I'm interested.

My reading comprehension is fine. I simply took issue with you referring to a place said to be dealing in human trafficking as "the spot." I already said this in my previous comment to you so I'm not sure why I'm having to restate it but there you go.

Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

You have two reviews. Both of which are from studios. Studios and amps are regularly raided for human trafficking. You have no reviews of established ladies. But your argument is amps are for traffickers and studios are for what? Business people? How do yo know the two ladies from your reviews weren't trafficked? This issue seems to matter to you. If it does. Share with the guys the tell tell signs of trafficking...at an Asian/latina studio that makes the ladies you reviewed different from the ones you are fighting with all your might to protect.

Also... people don't sign up to be trafficked. It's not fucking groupon. Not everyone has a choice. You are making up criteria and shaming people based on criteria you made the fuck up

A lot to unpack here. First, yes I have two reviews. Not sure how that's relevant other than, as you pointed out, them being studio reviews. How do I know the two ladies in my reviews aren't trafficked? Simple answer - I don't. I'm pretty sure they're not though but I could be wrong. But, despite my only having 2 reviews, I've been around the scene a long time. Long before human trafficking was ever talked about. The ugly truth is that, more than likely, I have unknowingly been complicit in someone's trafficking at some point in time. The same can be said for basically everyone here. I would never do so intentionally but, like the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Obvious tell tale signs are what I already mentioned with AMPs. Living at the business is a major red flag. Speaking little to no english, while not a determining factor, is something to consider as well. Also, the woman's age and physical appearance. If she's a middle aged woman with a mom bod who speaks almost no english offering sex to basically anyone who walks in off the street, there is a very high probability that she is trafficked.

And yes they do sign up for it. They don't know that's what they're signing up for though. Almost all cases of human trafficking involve false promises to the victim. They target desperate people in difficult situations. If a lady ever mentions paying off a debt, she's almost certainly trafficked.

This is all well documented. The information is out there for anyone who chooses to look.

Originally Posted by poon_69

Me thinks he did those fake reviews to get PA and is LE

Have you ever watched Donnie Brasco? If anyone here is law enforcement it's probably going to be someone you'd never suspect. But just to be clear - no I'm not law enforcement. Although, it is a common misconception that an undercover has to tell you he's a cop if you ask. Wouldn't be much point in going undercover if a simple yes/no question unraveled their investigation. Also, if a provider asks to see your dick to prove you're not a cop, let her know that an undercover cop can show his dick if needed to maintain his cover. Of course, when you tell her this, just understand that she will probably never talk to you again.

So... yeah

Originally Posted by Spoljana

You and the purple dude need to go to Chuck E Cheese together. Maybe y’all can learn reading comprehension while patting each other on the back that your felonious behavior is truly enriching lives.

Again, my reading comprehension is just fine. Although, if it weren't, I'm not sure Chuck E Cheese is the best place to improve it.

Originally Posted by Spoljana

There are 2 obviously lost dudes on this thread. One was called out for being potential LE and hasn’t been heard from since.

I was busy talking shit in other threads. Sorry for neglecting you. I'm here now.