The Trump Economy

[RX792P]

"hottest economy"

Trump needs to 'counsel' economic adviser Hassettt

White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett said Monday that U.S. job gains could be lower in the coming months due to slower labor force growth and higher productivity, weighing into a debate that is also underway at the Federal Reserve and promises to shape the central bank's coming policy decisions

https://www.newsmax.com/finance/stre...09/id/1245473/

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

Donald Trump Jr. has the right idea partnering up with Birch Gold Group doing commercials for them on Youtube and TV. Why would anyone put cash in a Bank CD or savings account in this environment? With the rate that gold is appreciating at the pace it is under Trump's 2nd Presidency the price of gold will be at $12,500 at the end of Trump's Presidency in 2028. It would be easier for gold to double from $5K to $10K than Bitcoin doubling and going to $130K from current price.

Ain't a $$$ person.

But i'd lay odds that if you invested $100 day 1 Wall Street opened and $100 in gold, the Stock Market would have a better return on investment.

Not to say you shouldn't hedge your assets with a bit of coin there.

[RX792P]

"I mean, there is certainly — pick your description — a K-shaped economic bifurcation of the consumer. We continue to see really consistent strength across luxury for the full year," Marriott CEO Anthony Capuano said on Yahoo Finance.


full disclosure...I am very lucky to currently be on the upward facing leg of the K shaped economy. Many of my friends are not.

[RX792P]

The OBBB is being good...to big business.

Amazon's tax bill dropped from about $9 billion in 2024 to $1.2 billion in 2025. Likewise, Meta reported a year-over-year drop from about $9.6 billion in 2024 to $2.8 billion in 2025.

The annual report from Alphabet, meanwhile, reported a tally that combined US federal and state tax totals and showed a drop from about $21.1 billion in 2024 to $13.8 billion in 2025.

This despite big increases in profits.

Amazon's domestic profits jumped to nearly $90 billion in 2025 — an over 40% increase from 2024. Alphabet's domestic profits jumped over 32% to $143.6 billion, while Meta came in at $79.6 billion, a 20% jump.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazo...161229652.html

[RX792P]

Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro says the rebound is proof the tariffs defied Wall Street fears and helped drive investment, productivity and economic growth critics never saw coming.

White House Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing Peter Navarro

"It's nice to be right," Navarro said, pointing back to his prediction in April. "We were talking on April 7th, thereabouts... The Dow had fallen to 38,000... What I said to you... It's going to 50,000."

Peter should take note that In 2025, the "Magnificent Seven" stocks (Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta, and Tesla) were responsible for approximately 40% to 52% of the S&P 500's total gains.

Nvidia and Alphabet: These were the primary drivers, with Nvidia alone contributing 15.5% and Alphabet 13.5% of the index's total return.

Seven...out of Five Hundred.

[Precious_b]

Gotta say that finally seeing a slow down in my biz. Typically the slow time of year, so Ima not concerned at the moment. But things need to pickup when they usually do during my business cycle. Was pretty bulletproof during Covid. We'll see how things look down the road. Lord knows I did my bit last year to stimulate the economy with my spending.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Ain't a $$$ person.

But i'd lay odds that if you invested $100 day 1 Wall Street opened and $100 in gold, the Stock Market would have a better return on investment.

Not to say you shouldn't hedge your assets with a bit of coin there.

You would lay odds and lose your bet in a simulation ran a billion times over. Such a bet wouldn't be fair from 1834-1933 because gold was pegged at $20, but if we started the bet at 1974 when the American slaves (every citizen living in the US at the time) were allowed to own gold again as a privlege granted by government gold would clearly be the winner. Especially if the banksters were not allowed to short gold with paper contracts to control the physical price in which they are losing that war. Gold should already be well over $10K an oz and at the rate it's going up with Trump as President gold could be at $12K an oz at the end of his presidency if he gets his way with the young pencil-pushing Fed head.

[Turner2099]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

You would lay odds and lose your bet in a simulation ran a billion times over. Such a bet wouldn't be fair from 1834-1933 because gold was pegged at $20, but if we started the bet at 1974 when the American slaves (every citizen living in the US at the time) were allowed to own gold again as a privlege granted by government gold would clearly be the winner. Especially if the banksters were not allowed to short gold with paper contracts to control the physical price in which they are losing that war. Gold should already be well over $10K an oz and at the rate it's going up with Trump as President gold could be at $12K an oz at the end of his presidency if he gets his way with the young pencil-pushing Fed head.

If I understand correctly, it took 50 years to reach the level it was at when Trump took office and then it nearly doubled in price in a year, right?

To me, that doesn't seem like coincidence.

Isn't gold considered to be a hedge against economic uncertainty as much as, if not more than it is an investment vehicle?

"Global central banks are buying large amounts of gold, partly driven by a trend toward de-dollarization and a desire to diversify reserves away from U.S. policy dependence."

"The potential for a weaker U.S. dollar, linked to policies from the returning Trump administration, has further encouraged buying, as investors seek assets to hedge against the dollar's relative decline."

"Expectations that the U.S. Federal Reserve might reduce interest rates, or conversely, concerns about the Fed's independence, have fueled interest in gold."

"The surge in gold has been linked to concerns regarding the Trump administration's 'convention-busting' approach to governance, including sweeping tariff threats against both allies and foes, which create volatility and market anxiety."

"In summary, the rapid, near-doubling of gold prices to record highs in 2025-2026 acts as a "barometer of market anxiety," signaling that many investors are hedging against risks associated with unpredictable trade, geopolitical, and economic policies."

Apparently, gold has only done this once before in 1979-1980,
"When it experienced a massive, rapid surge, with prices nearly doubling in a single year amid high U.S. inflation, oil price shocks, and geopolitical crises."

It looks like Trump's current economy (if that's the right way to put it) and actions are contributing to present global uncertainty.

It's great that people have made money, and I hope you have, too, but is it really a good thing that the price of gold has gotten so high and do we really want the conditions that it looks like will be necessary for gold to double again?

https://www.google.com/search?q=why+...-8#lfId=ChxjMe


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[pxmcc]

^^Trump has ridden us into the apocalypse and the U.S. dollar into the shitter, bigly. thanks Trump, you stable genius you!..

[RX792P]

Trump reveals the 'stable genius' planning behind his tariffs...

I put on a 30% tariff, which is very low. Still, we were having a big deficit but it was half the deficit and I got an emergency call from I believe the prime minister of Switzerland and she was very aggressive. Nice, but very aggressive. “Sir, we are a small country. We can’t do this. We can’t do this.” I couldn’t get her off the phone. “We are a small country,” and I said, “you may be a small country, but we have a $42 billion deficit with you.” “No, no, we are a small country.” Again and again and again, I couldn’t get her off the phone. So it was at 30% and I didn’t really like the way she talked to us, and so instead of giving her a reduction I raised it to 39%, and then I got inundated by people from Switzerland and I figured, do you know what? We’ll do something that’s a little bit more palatable.

[RX792P]

Trump math....

"Every point is $600 billion," Trump said. "All he has to do if we went down two points, we don't have a deficit anymore," he claimed.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...st-rates-world

I'd like to see those calculations...

Maybe the Fed should do like Trump did with drugs and lower the interest rate 500%, 600%?

[RX792P]

Just so no one can accuse me of only passing on 'bad news'.

Per Bureau of Labor Statistics...

The U.S. added 130,000 jobs in January, according to the report, which marked a sharp increase from 50,000 jobs added in the previous month.

The unemployment rate dropped to 4.3% in January from 4.4% in December, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) said. Unemployment remains low by historical standards.
The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics delayed the release of the January data due to a partial government shutdown last week, which helps explain why the jobs report was issued on a Wednesday in the middle of the month, rather than its customary release on the month's first Friday.

[Turner2099]

Originally Posted by RX792P

Trump reveals the 'stable genius' planning behind his tariffs...

So it was at 30% and I didn’t really like the way she talked to us, and so instead of giving her a reduction I raised it to 39%, and then I got inundated by people from Switzerland and I figured, do you know what? We’ll do something that’s a little bit more palatable.

Don't forget the Rolex clock and 1-kilogram gold bar.

"Based on reports from late 2025 and early 2026, President Donald Trump lowered tariffs on Swiss goods from 39% to 15% following meetings with Swiss industry leaders, including executives from Rolex, who gifted him a specialized Rolex desktop clock and a 1-kilogram gold bar. The decision was announced in November 2025, just weeks after the gifts were received."

https://www.google.com/search?q=did+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by Turner2099

If I understand correctly, it took 50 years to reach the level it was at when Trump took office and then it nearly doubled in price in a year, right?

To me, that doesn't seem like coincidence.

Isn't gold considered to be a hedge against economic uncertainty as much as, if not more than it is an investment vehicle?


It looks like Trump's current economy (if that's the right way to put it) and actions are contributing to present global uncertainty.

It's great that people have made money, and I hope you have, too, but is it really a good thing that the price of gold has gotten so high and do we really want the conditions that it looks like will be necessary for gold to double again?

It's a collective bi-partisan failure in reality when referring to "Trump's Economy." Every American is feeling the effects of President Nixon's decision from Aug 1971 as that monetary system is still in place. What's realized is that the system is failing as the debt is at unsustainable levels and cannot be paid back.

50 years of price manipulation by the BIG banks is what you're not accounting for or you would have much higher gold prices. Gold is considered a safe haven asset in times of economic uncertainty and it's doing exactly what it should be doing, keeping pace with inflation or beating it which it clearly is and the dollar isn't. Why do you think the ladies are raising rates? Cause the dollar is the thing going down. Gold at $5K an oz still seems undervalued when the analyts at the BIG banks are calling for $6K+ price forecasts within 2026. If people think $5K is high then they'll think $10K is high whenever it hits that mark and it will. A fair price would seem like $100K or $150K an ounce according to experts in the precious metals field.

Commodities are in a super cycle why buck the trend when Trump has already announced Project Vault and JD Vance starting a 50 nation silver cartel at the Minerals meeting he was at a week ago with Little Marco? The $12 billion that Trump pledged for Project Vault seems like a conservative estimate and I think the numbers are much higher than what's being reported. The key thing to know is which companies is the government buying from and are they publicly traded companies in the mining sector.

In this environment the dollar or all fiat currencies is the Titanic, Gold & Silver are the life rafts. Trump knows this. He's telling you he wants lower interest rates and wants to print, print, print with the new Fed head Kevin Warsh and Powell needs to go to the retirement home.

[1blackman1]

Let me run out and buy gold right now.