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Originally Posted by pxmcc
First point of order, fuck China.
Second point of order, see the first point of order.
Ok now let's get down to brass tacks.
We don't ask China's permission when it comes to our military relations with Taiwan. China plans on taking Taiwan by force, and if Trump is a loyal American, that's not going to happen.
Whether Trump is a loyal American is a point in dispute.
So Trump jacked up tariffs on China. Fine. If anyone deserved exorbitant U.S. tariffs, it's China.
Now he's trying to make a trade deal to fix the trade crisis that he caused, rightly or wrongly. I say, in this case, probably rightly. But in any case, he caused this trade war crisis thingee with China.
Now China says, before we can make this trade deal, you gotta back off these high tech weapons sales to Taiwan.
What's the proper response?
"Hey China, why don't you go fuck yourself! We'll keep your tariffs as they are, or as high as I can legally assess them. (since I'm a dumbass and I just got my ass kicked by the Supreme Court that I myself appointed for violating the Constitution and federal law.), and sell Taiwan whatever the hell we want, including nukes if we damn well feel like it. Matter of fact, take the effing trade deal or we're selling Taiwan enough ICBMs, F22s, F35s, Ford-class carriers, and Virginia-class subs to wipe you off the effing planet.."
What does Trump do? "Hmm, ok, let me reconsider these weapon sales. Maybe instead we'll downgrade what military hardware we'll sell to Taiwan so we can get this trade deal done."
Like, what in the actual fuck..
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...deal-trump-xi/
This bastard needs to be impeached..
ok, maggies, go ahead and defend the indefensible.. |
ok. some interesting items your article
Steve Yates, senior research fellow for China and national security policy at the Heritage Foundation, said Taiwan’s arms packages do not have a fixed time for processing and that such requests have stalled and proceeded in a host of ways and across multiple administrations following the passage of the Taiwan Relations Act in 1979.
“Packages deemed ready for Presidential sign-off have always been subject to the competition with other matters before the President,” Yates told The Hill on Friday. “Delaying an announcement until after a near-term political or diplomatic priority is common and does not jeopardize the transaction."
While Trump isn’t abandoning U.S. support for Taiwan, it shows “the extra level of priority that he gives to stabilizing bilateral relations with China, especially when it comes to trade.”
the counter point .. and it's context
Trump’s comments on Monday prompted some analysts and
lawmakers to question if the president violated the so-called Six Assurances, a set of six nonbinding U.S. policy assurances struck in 1982 during the Reagan administration. The second outlines that Washington will not consult Beijing on arms sales to Taiwan.
“With that being said, President Trump’s willingness to discuss arms sales to Taiwan with Xi may set a risky precedent in which Beijing senses an opportunity to double down on its demand over U.S. defense support to Taiwan during bilateral leadership summits, and it will be up to
President Trump and the U.S. government to determine how they will respond to potentially more aggressive Chinese demands on this particular topic,” Yang said.
and the counter point again ..
“Taiwan is not a vital national interest for the U.S., but stable security and trade relations with China are an absolutely vital interest. Inevitably, therefore, the Taiwan issue including arms sales, will be on the agenda of U.S.-China relations,” he said. “A much more serious issue is the 3rd Communique (1982) with China, wherein the U.S. agreed to gradually decrease arms sales to Taiwan.”
and again
“While President Trump may speak in ways that confuse alleged China policy experts,
his actions to date are the strongest signal since Eisenhower in support of frontline deterrence of PRC [People’s Republic of China] aggression along the entire Pacific Rim,” Yates said. “A profound contrast to Obama-Biden officials’ tough talk while failing to deter China or conform with the Taiwan Relations Act.”
since Ike. and that includes Reagan. think about that
speaking of Ronnie the Great
Trump’s comments on Monday prompted some analysts and
lawmakers to question if the president violated the so-called Six Assurances,
a set of six nonbinding U.S. policy assurances struck in 1982 during the Reagan administration. The second outlines that Washington will not consult Beijing on arms sales to Taiwan.
Some experts argued that it is debatable if Trump’s recent comments and current approach are in violation of the principle, as the language of the Second Assurance regarding Taiwan arms sales leaves some ambiguity.
Goldstein said he did think the discussion seemingly breached the Six Assurances, but that those principles should not carry any weight since they are “outdated and nonsensical — for the most part.”
so throwing Trump under the bus for a long standing issue is nonsense. this goes back to post WWII and the so-called "One China" agreement. what that really means is that at end of WWII with all the US had to deal with like that new Russian Superpower a petty squabble between Mao Zedong and Chiang Kai-Shek wasn't important. who knew 70 years later Taiwan would be a mighty mite IT powerhouse?
thank you valued posters
Why in the Fuck Is Trump Consulting China Over an Arms Sale Deal to Taiwan?
