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Old 03-01-2026, 09:33 AM   #16
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What is Christian Nationalism? Sound like a racehorse or something a leftist professor made up to sell books.
Well, you don't appear to be well read on ANY books, but I'll help you out:

Christian nationalism is the belief that a country—often the U.S.—isn’t just historically influenced by Christianity, but should actively reflect Christian beliefs in its laws and public life. It’s less about individual faith and more about shaping government policy around a particular religious worldview.

Sharia, rooted in the legal tradition of Islam, can function similarly in places where religious doctrine influences state law. In both cases, the central idea is that society works best when public rules line up with a specific faith’s moral framework.

So when people say Christian nationalism is completely different from Sharia-based systems, the more honest answer is that the differences are mostly about which religion is involved and how it’s implemented. The scriptures, history, and interpretations are very different—but structurally, both approaches connect religious authority with political power. At their core, they share the belief that government should reflect what they understand to be God’s will.

And I'll take dogs over either option.
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Old 03-01-2026, 09:42 AM   #17
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A piranha is eating your foot....
The thread is about dogs...and inquiring minds want to know...WHY do you have a CAT for an avatar? That seems to be a serious conflict of interest that negates your credibility to post about this topic....well, that and these bizarre allegories....

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The premise the OP stated that "we all know that Democrats have an unwavering support of Islam" is incorrect.

- what Democrats is he talking about
- how did he come to know that "we all know"

Every one of his threads comes down to the same thing...trying to bash Democrats.

It is TROLLING
It is my perception and belief that former President Obama was an Islamic supporter in. his heart.

We can argue over that forever. That is my personal belief based on how he spoke about Islam and the koran. It is my belief based on his policies and actions in the international arena.

Democrats and the Democratic Party in general supported the anti-Israel protests actively, or by their inaction and silence. It may in fact be true that many Democrats do not have an "unwavering support" for Islamic causes, but it sure appears that way . . .to me anyway.

During the anti-Semitic protests, all of academia supported the protesters . . .and all of academia seems to be made up of Democrats.

It may not be so, but that is what aI see. That is my perception.
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I concur, ICU.

Can't say he followed the seven pillars. But at its true heart, he follows the true intent of the religion more than donny.

"The complete submission and surrender of one's will to the one, true God"
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I concur, ICU.

Can't say he followed the seven pillars. But at its true heart, he follows the true intent of the religion more than donny.

"The complete submission and surrender of one's will to the one, true God"
This also describes Christianity.

Jesus's own prayer in Gethsemane — "not my will, but yours be done" (Luke 22:42) — is considered the supreme model of surrendering one's will to God

Paul writes extensively about dying to self, submitting to God's will, and being transformed rather than conformed to the world (Romans 12:2)

The Lord's Prayer itself includes "thy will be done" — a daily acknowledgment of submission to God's will

Catholic and Orthodox Christianity emphasize surrender through obedience, contemplative prayer, and conforming one's will to God's through the sacraments and spiritual discipline

Protestant/Evangelical Christianity emphasizes personal surrender at conversion — being "born again" involves relinquishing self-will and accepting Christ as Lord

Contemplative/Mystical Christianity (Meister Eckhart, Thomas à Kempis, John of the Cross) goes furthest, describing the complete annihilation of self-will as the pinnacle of spiritual union with God
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It is my perception and belief that former President Obama was an Islamic supporter in. his heart.

We can argue over that forever. That is my personal belief based on how he spoke about Islam and the koran. It is my belief based on his policies and actions in the international arena.

Democrats and the Democratic Party in general supported the anti-Israel protests actively, or by their inaction and silence. It may in fact be true that many Democrats do not have an "unwavering support" for Islamic causes, but it sure appears that way . . .to me anyway.

During the anti-Semitic protests, all of academia supported the protesters . . .and all of academia seems to be made up of Democrats.

It may not be so, but that is what aI see. That is my perception.
Yeah, dredge that up again.

I disagree with you
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This also describes Christianity.

Jesus's own prayer in Gethsemane — "not my will, but yours be done" (Luke 22:42) — is considered the supreme model of surrendering one's will to God

Paul writes extensively about dying to self, submitting to God's will, and being transformed rather than conformed to the world (Romans 12:2)

The Lord's Prayer itself includes "thy will be done" — a daily acknowledgment of submission to God's will

Catholic and Orthodox Christianity emphasize surrender through obedience, contemplative prayer, and conforming one's will to God's through the sacraments and spiritual discipline

Protestant/Evangelical Christianity emphasizes personal surrender at conversion — being "born again" involves relinquishing self-will and accepting Christ as Lord

Contemplative/Mystical Christianity (Meister Eckhart, Thomas à Kempis, John of the Cross) goes furthest, describing the complete annihilation of self-will as the pinnacle of spiritual union with God

Damn Turner, you have to take my one comparison where the melange fuck failed and throw a few more that he is also miserable loser at.
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OK . . .so back to the topic about dogs and Democrats . . .

I saw this new asian cookbook, "101 Ways To Wok Your Dog", . . . .By Barak Obama.
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OK . . .so back to the topic about dogs and Democrats . . .

I saw this new asian cookbook, "101 Ways To Wok Your Dog", . . . .By Barak Obama.
Horse shit.

Which was your favorite recipe? Haitian Dalmatian, Ohio-style?
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No . . .there is no actual cookbook.

But I do recall hearing audio excerpts from his autobiography that described eating different breeds of dog. . . . .narrated by Obama himself.

Chrisitie Noem does have flaws and faults, but merely shooting a dog is not one of them.
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Great response.

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No . . .there is no actual cookbook.

But I do recall hearing audio excerpts from his autobiography that described eating different breeds of dog. . . . .narrated by Obama himself.

Chrisitie Noem does have flaws and faults, but merely shooting a dog is not one of them.
The eating different breeds of dog quote is fictional.

What he wrote and narrated was, "...and, away from the dinner table, I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), and roasted grasshopper (crunchy)".

This passage refers to his experiences as a young boy, between the ages of six and ten, while living in Indonesia with his stepfather.

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Christian nationalism, in the context of the MAGA (Make America Great Again) movement, is an ideology that fuses American identity with a specific, conservative interpretation of Christianity, aiming to establish the U.S. as a Christian nation and enforce those values through government action. While not identical, the two movements are heavily intertwined, with Christian nationalism acting as a core pillar and ideological driving force behind the MAGA movement.

Here is how Christian nationalism relates to MAGA based on current analysis and research:

1. A Reciprocal Relationship

A "Deep Story": Christian nationalism is viewed as the "deep story" behind Donald Trump's political rise, providing a powerful, millennialist framework for his supporters.

Mutual Need: Analysts describe the relationship as a marriage of convenience and ideology: Trump needed a loyal, dedicated base, and Christian nationalists needed a political strongman to secure their cultural influence.

Trump as "God's Instrument": Many in this movement, particularly within the New Apostolic Reformation networks, believe that even if Trump is not a devout Christian, he is a "chosen instrument" or a "King Cyrus" figure selected by God to save America.

2. Core Tenets in the MAGA Movement

The Seven Mountains Mandate: A prominent belief among Christian nationalists in the MAGA movement is that Christians should take control of the "seven mountains" of culture (government, education, media, arts, family, religion, and business).

Dominionism and Authoritarianism: The movement often promotes a belief that Christians are called to exercise dominion over all aspects of society. This has led to the advocacy of a "strong leader" who can implement these values, moving toward a form of Christian authoritarianism.

White Christian Identity: This ideology is deeply linked to the belief that the U.S. is "blessed" by God, but that this privilege is threatened by cultural shifts, secularism, and demographic changes. It is heavily identified with white evangelical Protestants.

3. Policy and Actionable Goals

"Take Back" America: The goal is to reshape the federal government. This is clearly visible in the Project 2025 blueprint, which outlines strategies for a second Trump term to increase "Christian nation-ism" within federal agencies.

January 6th and Political Violence: Studies show that Christian nationalist beliefs are a leading predictor of support for the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot and the belief that political violence may be necessary to "save" the country.

Cultural Battles: The ideology fuels MAGA’s stance on cultural issues, including anti-abortion efforts, the rejection of LGBTQ+ rights, the push for school vouchers, and the removal of books or history curriculum that challenge a traditional, nationalistic narrative.

4. Key Differences and Critiques

Not All Supporters: While Christian nationalism is a massive driver of the MAGA movement, not all MAGA supporters identify with this ideology.

Theological Critique: Many mainstream Christian leaders have condemned this movement, calling it a distortion of faith that prioritizes political power, race, and patriarchal power over the teachings of Jesus Christ.

In summary, Christian nationalism provides MAGA with its moral and cosmic justification, turning political, cultural battles into a sacred, existential struggle.
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What is Christian Nationalism? Sound like a racehorse or something a leftist professor made up to sell books.

Christian nationalism is a political and social ideology that merges Christian beliefs with national identity. This worldview advocates for the integration of Christian principles into political governance, asserting that the nation should uphold and promote Christian values.
Key Characteristics

  1. Religious Foundations: Advocates believe that Christianity should play a central role in shaping laws, policies, and national identity.
  2. Cultural Identity: Emphasizes a collective identity rooted in Christianity, often viewing the nation as a "Christian nation."
  3. Political Influence: Encourages Christians to engage in political processes to influence legislation and policy that reflects their faith.
  4. Exclusivity: Often promotes the idea that the rights and privileges of citizenship are tied to adherence to Christian values, which can marginalize non-Christian groups.
Historical Context

  • Origins in America: The roots can be traced back to the early colonial period, where Puritan and other Christian sects sought to establish a society based on their religious values.
  • Modern Movements: In contemporary times, the rise of Christian nationalism has been notably visible in certain political movements and groups within the United States, often intertwined with conservative politics.
  • Global Perspectives: While it is most prominent in America, similar ideologies can be found in other countries, especially where Christianity is a dominant religion.


Contrast that with what's in the first amendment about religion. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

To me, it sounds like Fine, Ogles, Dumberville, and Johnson (for defending Ogles) are closer to the ones who "don't belong in the US" much less is government.
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