Trump signs EO restricting mail in ballots!!!

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by bambino

France banned mail-in voting in 1975 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Mexico banned mail-in voting in 1992 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Belgium banned mail-in voting in 2018 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Sweden, Italy, Japan, Russia, Latin American countries and the Middle East DO NOT ALLOW MAIL-IN VOTING.

Democrats would have you believe that the 2020 election that had a staggering amount of mail-in voting was the "most secure election in American history."

Get. Fucked. You cheating bastards.

Lol. All those countries you mention also treat election day as a national holiday. I've been in other countries on their election days. It's pretty wild. Everything is shut down - even the bars.

Everyone who wants to vote in one of those countries can do so without taking time off work. It's nothing at all like our system here that prioritizes disenfranchising people by making it unnecessarily difficult to vote.

There's always an easy hole to poke in every one of these bombastic copypastas you bring in here.



And there's still no evidence that any cheating went on in 2020. Just a bunch of whining from sore losers. By the way, the guy who declared 2020 as "the most secure election in American history" was a Republican who trump himself appointed.

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by bambino

France banned mail-in voting in 1975 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Mexico banned mail-in voting in 1992 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Belgium banned mail-in voting in 2018 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Sweden, Italy, Japan, Russia, Latin American countries and the Middle East DO NOT ALLOW MAIL-IN VOTING.

Democrats would have you believe that the 2020 election that had a staggering amount of mail-in voting was the "most secure election in American history."

Get. Fucked. You cheating bastards.

That country list? Spot-on... as a viral meme copy-pasted since 2020. Nice find.

Missing bits: Tons of those nations banned domestic mail-in voting but kept it for expats. Mexico added absentee in 2006. Japan does it for disabled folks. Germany? 37% mail votes. UK loves it. "No country does this" is a stretch when dozens tweak it in real ways.

Quick reality check: 2020 US election got audited, recounted, sued in 60+ courts. GOP and Dem officials signed off. Trump's AG called it clean. His cyber chief too. Verdict? No mass fraud.

Proven mail-in fraud here? Studies say it's rarer than hen's teeth. More common: in-person GOP fraud, like that Trump guy voting his dead mom in 2020.

But yeah. Right back at ya. 😏

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Why are leftists so afraid of secure elections?

(^^^Rhetorical question, since we all know the answer.)

"Rhetorical question" is just code for making an accusation without having to defend it. Convenient.

Zero documented cases of widespread 2020 fraud. Zero courts out of sixty that bought the evidence. Trump's own AG: no fraud. His own Cybersecurity chief: no fraud. Republicans actually caught committing voter fraud: several — including a man who voted his dead mother for Trump.

The people genuinely afraid of something are the ones screaming fraud for eight years with nothing to show for it, while quietly writing rules that make it harder for certain Americans to vote.

But sure. Rhetorical question. Real bold stance.

[Green_Mountain]

Here’s a clip from X, that you know that place that can’t be trusted like other good sites such as Bluesky.

Just a little bit of documented and recorded voter fraud that ended up with a court intervening.

We like loopholes. We don’t want secure elections. And then we’ll tell you it’s not needed because “there are laws already in place.” I think crossing your fingers and hoping for trust works best with election integrity.

Please don’t scrub voter rolls or put quality standards in place because you are a threat to democracy if you do.

https://x.com/JDunlap1974/status/203...001192811?s=20

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Here’s a clip from X, that you know that place that can’t be trusted like other good sites such as Bluesky.

Just a little bit of documented and recorded voter fraud that ended up with a court intervening.

We like loopholes. We don’t want secure elections. And then we’ll tell you it’s not needed because “there are laws already in place.” I think crossing your fingers and hoping for trust works best with election integrity.

Please don’t scrub voter rolls or put quality standards in place because you are a threat to democracy if you do.

https://x.com/JDunlap1974/status/203...001192811?s=20

Oh good, a clip from X. The same X that's basically a firehose of unverified claims run by a guy who thinks posting memes at 2am constitutes political analysis. Solid source.

But let's look at what you've actually shown us — an isolated case that went to court and was caught. That's the system working exactly as designed. Nobody said fraud never happens. The argument is that it's rare, the existing mechanisms catch it, and sixty courts looked at 2020 and found nothing systemic. Trump's own AG said no widespread fraud. His own Cybersecurity chief called it the most secure election in history.

And since we're sharing personal favorites — conservative activist Harry Wait was just convicted in Wisconsin for committing voter fraud while trying to prove voter fraud exists. Take a moment with that one.

Also worth mentioning — voter roll purges have already removed thousands of eligible voters in Alabama, Texas, and Virginia. Real people. Real votes. Quietly gone. That's not election integrity. That's just subtraction with extra steps.


One clip from X showing the system already caught something isn't the devastating argument it feels like from the inside.

[eyecu2]

Plus that person referenced in the clip Josh Dunlap is A SUPER MAGA MORON. Not shocked our conservative buds here blindly follow ALL MAGA heretics who are suffering from Trump Denial Syndrome. Dear leader can do no wrong.

Meanwhile executive orders cannot change how States perform their voting rights. Especially when they are in direct conflict with the same States statutes and agreed upon operation of that state's voting system.

There's no way that those EO S will stand up

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by fd-guy

Oh good, a clip from X. The same X that's basically a firehose of unverified claims run by a guy who thinks posting memes at 2am constitutes political analysis. Solid source.

But let's look at what you've actually shown us — an isolated case that went to court and was caught. That's the system working exactly as designed. Nobody said fraud never happens. The argument is that it's rare, the existing mechanisms catch it, and sixty courts looked at 2020 and found nothing systemic. Trump's own AG said no widespread fraud. His own Cybersecurity chief called it the most secure election in history.

And since we're sharing personal favorites — conservative activist Harry Wait was just convicted in Wisconsin for committing voter fraud while trying to prove voter fraud exists. Take a moment with that one.

Also worth mentioning — voter roll purges have already removed thousands of eligible voters in Alabama, Texas, and Virginia. Real people. Real votes. Quietly gone. That's not election integrity. That's just subtraction with extra steps.


One clip from X showing the system already caught something isn't the devastating argument it feels like from the inside.

Definitely!

Can’t trust X, it’s not a good news source like the ones that you use! And I’m sure EVERY TIME something like the video shows has been caught! Trumps EO is a threat to democracy and you’re on to him. Kudos to you!

Here’s an example of double ballots being sent in the mail in Wisconsin. It’s ok, the system worked again and they’ve been caught. The system works every time!

We don’t need no stinkin’ quality assurance built into the voting process. A little bit of fraud and errors never hurt anybody.

See what I did there?

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2040...831474946?s=20

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Definitely!

Can’t trust X, it’s not a good news source like the ones that you use! And I’m sure EVERY TIME something like the video shows has been caught! Trumps EO is a threat to democracy and you’re on to him. Kudos to you!

Here’s an example of double ballots being sent in the mail in Wisconsin. It’s ok, the system worked again and they’ve been caught. The system works every time!

We don’t need no stinkin’ quality assurance built into the voting process. A little bit of fraud and errors never hurt anybody.

See what I did there?

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2040...831474946?s=20

Yes, yes, I know that you have cleverly argued both sides of the case at once in your last post.

Just as the Wisconsin example, the current clip shows the system working correctly. The fact that the system has caught something does not suggest that the system is broken, quite the contrary. You keep using examples to show how election integrity works and interpret them to prove that they do not. Fascinating logic indeed.

It should also be mentioned that "fraud does not hurt anybody as long as it is done in moderation" is obviously an ironic comment but let me remind you that most cases that are known to be fraudulent are due to administrative errors and individual mistakes only. Not an elaborate conspiracy. Not stolen elections. Just clerical errors that have been detected because of the system.

Your own statement proves it twice in a row. You see, this is a devastating argument.

But I guess it might not be obvious for you yet.

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by fd-guy

Yes, yes, I know that you have cleverly argued both sides of the case at once in your last post.

Just as the Wisconsin example, the current clip shows the system working correctly. The fact that the system has caught something does not suggest that the system is broken, quite the contrary. You keep using examples to show how election integrity works and interpret them to prove that they do not. Fascinating logic indeed.

It should also be mentioned that "fraud does not hurt anybody as long as it is done in moderation" is obviously an ironic comment but let me remind you that most cases that are known to be fraudulent are due to administrative errors and individual mistakes only. Not an elaborate conspiracy. Not stolen elections. Just clerical errors that have been detected because of the system.

Your own statement proves it twice in a row. You see, this is a devastating argument.

But I guess it might not be obvious for you yet.

Logic, integrity and consistency have never been MAGA strong suits

[Green_Mountain]

Parrot. Parrot.

Unable to create any original and articulate thoughts.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by fd-guy

Yes, yes, I know that you have cleverly argued both sides of the case at once in your last post.

Just as the Wisconsin example, the current clip shows the system working correctly. The fact that the system has caught something does not suggest that the system is broken, quite the contrary. You keep using examples to show how election integrity works and interpret them to prove that they do not. Fascinating logic indeed.

It should also be mentioned that "fraud does not hurt anybody as long as it is done in moderation" is obviously an ironic comment but let me remind you that most cases that are known to be fraudulent are due to administrative errors and individual mistakes only. Not an elaborate conspiracy. Not stolen elections. Just clerical errors that have been detected because of the system.

Your own statement proves it twice in a row. You see, this is a devastating argument.

But I guess it might not be obvious for you yet.

You nailed it!

Two cases of voting mischief above and two cases the law cleaned it up. Well that’s it, as there were only 2 cases ever! And that saying “you don’t know what you don’t know” doesn’t apply here! That shuts the door on voter fraud.

But wait! Here’s a 3rd case (not sure how such a scholar like yourself missed it), that isn’t on X. Does this link seem worthy to you? Or is more far right conspiracy theories? I’m starting to see a trend here with voter shenanigans but don’t try and convince me there’s possibly any more examples or that we should improve the quality of the process!

Must be another one of those administrative errors that you referenced?

For those that don’t know it, there is already a law in place. And we shall not take the steps to 100% enforce that law. Nope. Forget it.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/03/09/...elections-2008

ICE Arrests Criminal Illegal Alien who Voted in Seven Federal Elections Since 2008
Release Date: March 9, 2026

WASHINGTON – Today, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), in partnership with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), arrested Mahady Sacko, a criminal illegal alien from Mauritania, charged for voter fraud in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Parrot. Parrot.

Unable to create any original and articulate thoughts.

Bullshit. Nearly every time I post, it's my original and articulate thoughts. You just can't take it when someone piles on after you get your dumb, inaccurate shit gets smacked down.

90+% of my posts here are my original thoughts.

But keep up with the name-calling if it makes you feel better.

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/03/09/...elections-2008

ICE Arrests Criminal Illegal Alien who Voted in Seven Federal Elections Since 2008
Release Date: March 9, 2026

WASHINGTON – Today, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), in partnership with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), arrested Mahady Sacko, a criminal illegal alien from Mauritania, charged for voter fraud in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Lol. Not only does that headline read like a third grader wrote it, it's only one person. One person who was offset by the guy in Pennsylvania who voted for trump twice (once under his dead mother's name).

Net fraud = 0

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

Bullshit. Nearly every time I post, it's my original and articulate thoughts. You just can't take it when someone piles on after you get your dumb, inaccurate shit smacked down.

90+% of my posts here are my original thoughts.

But keep up with the name-calling if it makes you feel better.

I am deeply offended by your personal insults.

I guess DHS.gov isn’t a credible website to you. I’ll be sure to share your concerns with the federal government.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

Lol. Not only does that headline read like a third grader wrote it, it's only one person. One person who was offset by the guy in Pennsylvania who voted for trump twice (once under his dead mother's name).

Net fraud = 0

My gosh here is a 4th example of voter shenanigans in this thread cited on another official government website. These far right conspiracy theories must be wrong! There can’t be any more examples can there be?

And I’ll count your example, that’s not backed up by anything that you provided, as example 5! But we don’t need no stinkin’ quality assurance in the voting process!

https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-...n-and-lying-on

Two Pakistanis in New Jersey Indicted for Fraudulent Voting in a Federal Election and Lying on Citizenship Applications

Release Date
01/15/2026
NEWARK, N.J. – U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services provided critical assistance leading to the indictment of two Pakistani nationals for illegally voting in a federal election and making false statements while applying for United States citizenship. The U.S. Attorney’s Office made the announcement and credited the FBI, Homeland Security Investigations, and USCIS with the investigation.

According to the indictments, Muhammad Muzammal, 37, and Muhammad Shakeel, 62, were non-citizens when they registered to vote in New Jersey. On their registration forms, both men falsely certified and attested that they were U.S. citizens. After their applications to register were approved, each, still without U.S. citizenship, cast ballots in the November 2020 general election, which included the election for the offices of president and vice president of the United States. To register to vote and vote in federal elections, a person must be a United States citizen.