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Old 04-05-2026, 09:35 PM   #1
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If so, maybe it's a good idea to stfu for a while...


I Give Up on These Defeatists

From ‘No Kings’ and Iran to data centers, too many Americans are fighting progress.


By Andy Kessler

April 5, 2026 3:50 pm ET

I can’t stand all the defeatism. After a few short weeks, multiple New York Times columnists used the word “quagmire” to describe Iran. Really? No navy, few launchers, dwindling missiles and drones, plus nukes under rubble, yet the Guardian writes that the president “has lost his Iran war.”

Who does this remind you of? Oh yeah, “Baghdad Bob,” Iraq’s lying former information minister: “Today, the tide has turned, we are destroying them.” Now the media appears to be taking on his role.

Late capitalism, postcapitalism, “America is in decline” pronouncers, partisan professors, socialist mayors, “ICE out”-screaming celebrities - I’m tired of those rooting against us. Add the Tucker Carlson wing of isolationists and defeatists who would leave terror-funding despots in power. Don’t give up on democracy.

Last month saw more civics-mangling “No Kings” rallies - at least 3,300 of them in all 50 states. Even one in London, where it had to be branded “No Tyrants” since they have an actual king. According to the permit for the march in St. Paul, Minn. (why do so many weird things happen in Minnesota?), Indivisible, a George Soros-funded political advocacy group, was the lead coordinator. Other rallies were funded by socialist and communist revolutionary organizations, according to Fox News Digital. Classic astroturf. Be careful who you march for.

I’m all for protests, it’s our right as Americans. But nailing down the reason for No Kings is more like spinning the Wheel of Defeatists Complaints. Signs noted fascism, wars, school funding, billionaires, LGBT issues, allowing illegal immigration, even the Epstein files. And really, the rallies are mostly about Donald Trump’s winning the election. Forget protests, they’re more of a massive primal scream therapy session.

The New York Times recently ran a 4,100-word diatribe of defeatism, beginning “We had a good run,” before taking a swan dive into the muck including this economic gem: “The benefits of globalization had been vastly oversold.” Did you type that on a MacBook or a Remington typewriter? Thought so.

After a decades-long push for green energy, California has some of the highest electricity prices in the U.S., and now $6.50 a gallon for premium gasoline despite plenty of retrievable oil. We’ve been Gored. The same folks pushing those policies now circularly complain about affordability and the failure of capitalism. How bizarre - their defeatism was self-induced.

Remember the nail-biting that our fragile planet couldn’t handle multiple American standards of living around the world? It happened. We’re OK. The better they do, the better we do, selling them our high-value intellectual property.

If you haven’t figured it out, the main export of the U.S. is our standard of living. It isn’t in decline but the envy of the world, hence the rush to our borders. You won’t find that export in economic statistics, but it drives demand for our technology, medical practices and more. The other thing we export is freedom, which drives innovation and lifts living standards elsewhere. Global growth and productivity will be so strong that we’re rapidly inventing robots and artificial intelligence to handle logistics.

Meanwhile, many fight progress at home. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders, charter members of the Socialists for Defeatism Society, want a moratorium on productivity-driving artificial-intelligence data centers. They really do hate us.

I’m mostly tired of whiners who see defeat behind every minor setback. Sure, hate the president all you want, I have my own grievances to air. But give him credit. He threw out defeatism and acted when everyone else waffled.

Mr. Trump didn’t kick the can down the road by meekly lobbing a missile or two into Iran, like Bill Clinton in Iraq or Barack Obama in Libya. Heck, Mr. Obama, along with sidekick Ben Rhodes, returned a $1.7 billion tallboy can to Iran. This in exchange for quickly ignored sanctions, making Iran the powder keg that it was before Feb. 28.

Whatever happened to Harry Truman’s “The Buck Stops Here”? Well, it’s back. Mr. Trump opened up a can of whoop gas: blowing up drug boats, arresting Nicolás Maduro and, with Israel, vaporizing terrorist-funding mullahs. All a great start. The 3-D chess match continues. Now what?

Because of defeatism, we don’t follow through - no more of Woodrow Wilson’s “making the world safe for democracy.” A shame. Maybe the Trumpian way is to “make the world safe.” I wish we’d finish the task and encourage democracy.

Democracy is worth fighting for. Maybe we can’t force it - purple fingers after voting in Iraq = but we can be ready to pounce. The Middle East is transforming. Someday, the masses in China will demand a political say now that they have an economic say. Same with a post-Vladimir Putin Russia.

Global growth will be hard to hold back, but the world needs to be safe first. And safe from defeatists.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/i-give-u...tists-3d7752c9
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Old 04-05-2026, 11:17 PM   #2
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This guy is a fruitcake if he thinks the world will become a "safe" place.

Remember discussions in the past about who is going to be the world's policeman.

Trump seems to have brought that back in a big way...with no Congressional approval. And increases the US debt to what - now 39 trillion ?
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I hope smart MAGA didn’t read that opinion piece and think that it was worth the 4 minutes. That was the dumbest thing I read this morning.
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Did anyone actually read the article. I read it three times and I am still not sure of the logic that the author is using to justify his argument.

The author takes a number of events and statements whose commonality is expressed as opposition to the actions of the current Trump administration and other conservative issues and chooses to call it “defeatist”.

Here is the definition of defeatism as defined by The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

defeatism
  • Acceptance of or resignation to the prospect of defeat
  • Acceptance of the inevitability of defeat.
  • Acceptance of defeat without struggle.

I fail to see how active opposition can be described as accepting defeat without struggle.

It appears to me that the actual point the author is trying to make is this.

“He that is not with me is against me”. A quote often attributed to Jesus Christ. And Donald Trump is no Jesus Christ.

If the author wants to live in a society where group think and knuckling under is the norm then he should move to China.
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Remember discussions in the past about who is going to be the world's policeman.

Trump seems to have brought that back in a big way...
Yeah, we probably should have just let the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) do the policing. They were doing such a superb job!
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I hope smart MAGA didn’t read that opinion piece and think that it was worth the 4 minutes. That was the dumbest thing I read this morning.
Thanks, 1b1. Appreciate your substantive feedback. Tucker Carlson agrees with you!
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It appears to me that the actual point the author is trying to make is this.

“He that is not with me is against me”. A quote often attributed to Jesus Christ. And Donald Trump is no Jesus Christ.
Lol. Good one, txdot. You're right, no one will mistake trumpy for Jesus! (Even if he did just orchestrate an "Easter Miracle".)

If you want to criticize a policy course of action without being called "defeatist", then maybe you should propose alternative routes to success. Not just whine, nitpick and predict failure.

Surely you agree that use of the word "quagmire" on Day 1 of a military operation would seem a tad premature?
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The spin this guy puts on things is ridiculous.

Using high gas prices in CA as an example when they have special blends and high transportation costs. I remember 25 years ago seeing a cloud of smog hovering over LA. That is gone now.

The envy of the world huh? When it costs 4x to live here than other countries. I've seen videos of tech in places like China and ours pales in comparison.

Even mentioning returning 1.7 billion to Iran is the pinnacle of stupidity. It was their money and interest was mounting. It sounds like a lot of money but it isn't.
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So is trying to defend an opinion piece like this.
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You’re welcome.

As for discussion, proposing an alternative to someone that jumps off a building is kinda pointless considering that the only alternative was to not have jumped in the first place.

If that goes over your head, let me know, I’ll try to be more direct next time.
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...After a few short weeks, multiple New York Times columnists used the word “quagmire” to describe Iran...
I call those things ether "Outrage of the Day" or "The Narrative De Jure", but really, it's just programing of the NPCs.

Here's a classic example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE
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The spin this guy puts on things is ridiculous.

Using high gas prices in CA as an example when they have special blends and high transportation costs. I remember 25 years ago seeing a cloud of smog hovering over LA. That is gone now.
Well then, California greenies should be happy to defend the policies that keep driving up their state's gas & electric costs - "look! no more smog!"

Instead, they whine about "affordability" without acknowledging the biggest chunk of the problem is self-inflicted.

Who's being "ridiculous" again?
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As for discussion, proposing an alternative to someone that jumps off a building is kinda pointless considering that the only alternative was to not have jumped in the first place.
Knocking out Iran's nuke and missile programs isn't suicidal. But letting them develop and advance willy-nilly is.


"President Trump on Wednesday made the case for going to war with Iran that he should have made at the outset, but it was still essential for Americans to hear it. The most important message we heard is that he’s not ending the war until the job is done, and Iran’s leaders would be wise to act accordingly.

The strongest argument for bombing Iran is to deny the radical regime a nuclear weapon, and Mr. Trump made the case with vigor. You can nitpick that he exaggerated the immediacy of when Iran would have a bomb or have missiles capable of hitting America. But only a naif would believe the ayatollahs weren’t set on both. Someone had to stop them, and Mr. Trump acted when other Presidents and world leaders would not."


https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-t...-nato-07b5e420
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Lol. Good one, txdot. You're right, no one will mistake trumpy for Jesus! (Even if he did just orchestrate an "Easter Miracle".)

If you want to criticize a policy course of action without being called "defeatist", then maybe you should propose alternative routes to success. Not just whine, nitpick and predict failure.

Surely you agree that use of the word "quagmire" on Day 1 of a military operation would seem a tad premature?
I agree, Using the word quagmire on day one is definitely premature. I didn’t start using that word to describe the situation until week five of the conflict. My biggest concern at the time was the unitary decision making process. In fact it still is. If Trump wants us to get onboard he or other members of the administration will need to convince the general public of the necessity for this operation.

And the reason shouldn’t be to “finish the job” unless the administration provides actual goals to be met.

I still haven’t seen anyone actually tell the public what our objectives are and I find that extremely troubling.
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