Iran's New Conditions to End the War..

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Really?

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I'm a native born English speaker that prefers simple English, as per above.

Beats heck outta me how they and/or you, think Iran sets the terms of their surrender.

[1blackman1]

Have they surrendered?

Isn’t the US looking for terms to essentially surrender while claiming a victory?

If this was about Iranian surrender, we would have never called a ceasefire pending negotiations. We would just continue our military campaign until Iran waived a white flag. We aren’t negotiating Iran’s surrender, we’re negotiating ours.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Have they surrendered?...

Nope. Appears they have to wait until the very end of the 6th Sense movie to figure out that they are already dead.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

...Isn’t the US looking for terms to essentially surrender while claiming a victory?...

I like your sense of tragically ironic humor.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

...If this was about Iranian surrender, we would have never called a ceasefire pending negotiations. We would just continue our military campaign until Iran waived a red flag...

Let history be your guide. It took Japan eating a couple of nukes before they got a clue. I congratulate President #47, giving them a moment in time to reconsider the value proposition of their 47 years of reigning terror in the region and the world, writ large.
Regardless, they may be a bit color blind. They should be waving the

In related news: The MAGAnanamous Trump took the extra step of simplifying the English for them, to more easily translate into their native language, perhaps...

[1blackman1]

Clearly your understanding of history is limited. And your logic is flawed.

Japan had never been successfully invaded so for them the war wasn’t over. After two atom bombs they waived the white flag and surrendered. Iran hasn’t been invaded and they know having air superiority doesn’t mean the war is won. They also know we, the American people, have no tolerance for a ground invasion or the casualties that would result. For them, the war isn’t over.

Trump isn’t giving Iran some opportunity to save themselves. They know this. He too knows this. The only people that don’t are folks get their information from faux news or untruth social.

For us, America, the war has ended. Aside from some more bombing, we’re done. We aren’t going to do anything further. We’ve surrendered. Iran hasn’t waived the white flag. We have. We’re negotiating with Iran to go back to the pre-war terms. That’s not winning. They still have their uranium Trump allowed them to accumulate and they control traffic in the strait which was openly navigable pre-war.

[offshoredrilling]

well if its a nuke Iran wants lets give them one

lets hope two are not needed this time

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

well if its a nuke Iran wants let give them one

lets hope two are not needed this time

Spoken like a real American

YIKES

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Technically, you could be more wrong, theoretically - IMMHO.
But let's level the playing field a moment.

- The US has not had boots on the ground, per se, except to rescue a WSO.

- The first bomb, "Little Boy," was dropped on Hiroshima at 8:15 AM on August 6, 1945.

- The second bomb, "Fat Man," was dropped on Nagasaki at 11:02 AM on August 9, 1945.

As such, they had a 3 day window to come to terms of their fate.

There is a gulf of difference between done and paused, as it relates to bombing and further actions to coax the current regime to come to grips with their actual fate.

Trump has, Mercifully and MAGAnanimously, already told them they would have two weeks to come to terms with their actual fate. Coincidentally, perhaps, giving the US 2 weeks to rest, restock, resupply, gut check NATO members, lock and load.

Regardless... For us, Americans, we have no desire to allow a terrorist regime pursuing a nuclear weapon, much less gorilla-ising the Middle East and elsewhere in the world, through their web of terrorist proxies.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Clearly your understanding of history is limited. And your logic is flawed.

Japan had never been successfully invaded so for them the war wasn’t over. After two atom bombs they waived the white flag and surrendered. Iran hasn’t been invaded and they know having air superiority doesn’t mean the war is won. They also know we, the American people, have no tolerance for a ground invasion or the casualties that would result. For them, the war isn’t over.

Trump isn’t giving Iran some opportunity to save themselves. They know this. He too knows this. The only people that don’t are folks get their information from faux news or untruth social.

For us, America, the war has ended. Aside from some more bombing, we’re done. We aren’t going to do anything further. We’ve surrendered. Iran hasn’t waived the white flag. We have. We’re negotiating with Iran to go back to the pre-war terms. That’s not winning. They still have their uranium Trump allowed them to accumulate and they control traffic in the strait which was openly navigable pre-war.