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Old Today, 09:14 AM   #16
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Real ID doesn’t count under the SAVE Act. But since it’ll never pass, who cares. Republicans should stop whining about it.

I suspect the Dems will pick up at least 30 House seats and maybe get to 50 or 51 in the Senate. Authoritarianism is on the way out in actual democracies. Except it won’t take the US 16 years to pimp-slap ours outta power.

Right? It's almost as if the people in love with the SAVE act have never actually read it. Not going to bother responding to the gish gallop bullshit that precipitated this.


Anyway, back to the subject. It will be interesting to see how MAGA reacts when they get bounced out like the hero of CPAC Orbán.
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Old Today, 09:24 AM   #17
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...I said "citizen"...
As did I, after quoting you directly.
But if it helps you to catch up, I'll post the answer to an AI query:
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Valid identification documents for voting in Hungary’s 2026 parliamentary elections include a national ID card, a laser-engraved passport issued since late 1998, or a card-format driving licence. The digital identification application (DÁP) is not accepted as a valid form of ID at polling stations.

Voters must present their ID in person at their designated polling station to receive a ballot. The ID is verified by the vote-counting committee, and the voter must sign the electoral register to confirm receipt.

Voting is only possible between 6:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. local time on election day, with those already in line at 7:00 p.m. still allowed to vote.

Only Hungarian citizens aged 18 or older (or minors who married before 18) are eligible, provided they are not disenfranchised by court order.

No electronic or proxy voting is permitted, and early voting is not available.
FWIW: They do have some additional parameters, i.e. hoops to jump through, for dual-citizens as well.
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As did I, after quoting you directly.
But if it helps you to catch up, I'll post the answer to an AI query:
FWIW: They do have some additional parameters, i.e. hoops to jump through, for dual-citizens as well.
Once again, the ID you mention is at no-cost to the "citizen." Nothing like the SAVE act. So still not sure what your greater point is other than trying to derail the thread.
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I love when folks get to looking at other countries and make comments like “if they can have voting by paper and same day and no mailing, why can’t we.

Hungary is about the size of Indiana.
France is about the size of Texas.
England is about the size of Alabama.
Germany is about the size of Montana


I’ll just end the conversation right there.
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...the ID you mention is at no-cost to the "citizen." Nothing like the SAVE act. So still not sure what your greater point is other than trying to derail the thread.
But how does one secure said "free" ID?
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...Applicants must submit one of the following valid documents to prove their identity:
  • A valid permanent ID card or an ID card that expired less than one year ago.
  • A valid Hungarian passport or a passport that expired less than one year ago.
  • A valid Hungarian driving license (card format) that expired less than one year ago.
  • If no Hungarian document is available, a valid foreign ID card or passport may be accepted, provided the applicant also submits the specific address and citizenship documents
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Does everything free come without a cost? To the OP topic at hand: I'm fine with "valid voter" sentiment driving the outcome of an election. I just don't read we're ALL DOOMED into it.

I just do not read into it that the government proactively sends ID cards out, without the voter doing something to secure one at zero cost to themselves.
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To the OP topic at hand: I'm fine with "valid voter" sentiment driving the outcome of an election...

Cool. Thanks for the portion that's relevant to the thread. Try harder to stay on topic.


Feel free to go start your own thread about the SAVE act.
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As I've said here and elsewhere: I'm fine with a valid electorate essentially tossing out the entire slop of government, if it is the will of it's legal and legitimate citizens.

I doubt that will be the case here (USA), for a wide range of reasons, mostly the "other" team being devoid of any clear path to anything other than 'get Trump' and the general distaste of all things Socialism in our legal and legitimate electorate.

Besides, we would still have 14 years of control to go if'n it goes the same as for Orban.

As a gesture of goodwill, I'll cover you a pallet of 2x4 lumber, so you can try to prop up your narrative that this is how the midterms are gonna roll. Or are you banking for 2028, which could mean you'll need steel instead of renewable lumber?

In the meantime, just keep on RTMing and passing the hopium of your party on down the line, regardless of how challenging it may be to grasp at strawmen.
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