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Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
I'm a native born English speaker that prefers simple English, as per above.
Beats heck outta me how they and/or you, think Iran sets the terms of their surrender.  |
And how do you account for the umpteen million other tweets and such from the supposed wharton graduate that rank on the level of a toddler pounding the keyboard? You need not answer that.
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Originally Posted by 1blackman1
You can’t convince MAGA or Smart MAGA with facts. They rely on Trump and opinion pieces from right wing outlets to know what to say and believe.
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And that reliance is what dooms any chance of anything happening with Iran *if* that is the metric to follow.
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Originally Posted by offshoredrilling
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I know. It is sad.
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Originally Posted by adav8s28
Iran would not be anywhere near having enriched Uranium at 60% (U-235) if the Real Estate Developer turned President Trump had not canceled the JPCOA back in 2018.  |
True. You will not find a single maggie that will believe that was the most cost effective and demonstrated 100% effective keeping an eye on their development in that field.
You will also not find a single maggie here that will not say the cost expenditure produced the same objectives as Obama in curtailing an actual nuclear device.
And you will not find one maggie here that is a fiscal conservative and state that more could have been achieved with what has been spent on this boondoggle than could have been shown to have benefitted citizens here by investing a fraction into social programs.
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Originally Posted by SecretE
It's beyond obvious there was never a serious plan to put boots on the ground. The internal revolution the attack was supposed to foment never happened. Now, the US is trying to financially strangle Iran into an agreement. All the Democrats have to do now is sit back and let this boondoggle drag the GOP out of power in Congress, when the mid-terms hit.
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The attack that was not given a heads up by anyone outside of the maralogo pancake table was doomed to fail if it truly was to give the green light to the common people of Iran. There was a good long term plan in cutting off the regime there from the outside world. donny could have contributed to this and seriously give good aid to it that would have shown with the last two outburst from the Iranian people. Instead, he wanted to play a tinhorn dictator himself and appoint himself a Napoleon and went balls out to his Moscow in the Winter. The mullahs have been playing him ever since.
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Originally Posted by 1blackman1
The war is over. Trump and Heggy may claim we’ll start back bombing but in reality, it won’t happen. We’re gonna just call it done and move on. Just need the strait reopened, a few unenforceable promises from Iran to Never Ever seek a nuke and it’s all water under the bridge.
I guess they can be trusted to not cheat now or to not fund their terrorist proxies any longer.
Oh, and we’re freeing up another 20 Billion to give them.
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Funny. Why they still bombing there if an agreement is in place?
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... See? ... The Strait is OPEN. ... Success for America!
Iran rolled over. ... Good thing to have a cease-fire and
framework for a good agreement. ... Safer for the whole world. .. 
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Last time I looked, wasn't safe navigation. Guess your view of ships being fired upon is the definition of open....as in OPEN Fire.
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Originally Posted by pxmcc
^^the sad truth is you can't take anything Trump says at face value..
the way it looks to me is the party desperate to end the war is actually Trump, not Iran. when JD comes back empty handed from his 2nd trip to Pakistan, the only person/party who will look silly will be DJT. why else has Iran said nothing when Trump brags that Iran now agrees to all the U.S 's terms? it's obvious that statement is patently false..
but credit is due to Trump for getting Iran to even claim the Strait is open, even if it's still not safe for oil tankers to transit freely. (if it was, they'd already be doing it..)
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And that is the problem. He has zero trust built up in his bank. Mr Art of the Deal has shown how miserably of a failure he is in Foreign Policy here. Since his M.O. is to do kneejerk actions that probably are designed to line his pocket book, his actions are on the piss poor side of seeing actual results to what he states. So, he has to flip flop so much in the desperate attempt to actually latch onto something that might backasswardly appear to support one of his many throw-it-on-the-wall-and-hopefully-something-sticks approaches.
You will never find a maggie that will state that doing the legwork, having planned negotiations over a period of time can benefit in getting results.
Just like Obama did and acheived with deal that kept an eye on the nuclear program Iran has.
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Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Oh, is it really?!?
Of course, I wouldn't trust the Iran regime if they said I could have their 72 virgins either...  |
Just like Americans and the rest of the world don't trust what donny sez.
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
The strait is closed again
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What else is new?
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
trump is not a fool. I think he knows exactly whats hes doing.
it is obvious that he does not trust Iran. they've already broken promises.
this regime is crippled as far as command & control is concerned. its currently under mosaic command.
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That opinion and $5 might get you a decent cup of joe.
It is obvious no one trust the maggie in chief. And all the lies that have stuck to him like shitballs to his bloated butt.
