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Old 07-02-2011, 10:27 PM   #46
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I am actually interested in hearing the answer too. If there are so many, many lies, why is it so hard to come up with a citation? Easier to hate I suppose.

L4L, with you on O'Reilly, one of the few I can tolerate. Can't really watch any of the others on either side, even Bill Maher whose comedy I used to enjoy. I do enjoy Colbert because his satire is greatness.

Because of "some" of my opinions I must be a moron to Maher. Just like some of the others here, calling the other side a moron isn't debating.
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:36 PM   #47
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http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com...nn-beck-is.php

and sorry...this one is a bit long:


http://www.alternet.org/media/144726...49&pID=1394361
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:25 AM   #48
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Your FIRST item deals with an off the cuff debate and OPINION about a fucking DIME? Wow, before I click that next link I better go take a sedative because I don't think my heart can stand another shock like the first link provides. You know the sort of link where the critic actually posts that he has not had time to research but since it was from 2009, maybe just maybe he HAS had time now to do so but maybe fell short of his claims?

yeah, Beck renders a fucking OPINION about Woodrow Wilson which if you have bothered to watch his show, not one thing he has talked about with Wilson's policy decisions or actions, have proven to be wrong.

So, did Beck offer a fact here or an opinion? I'll look at your other link once the sedative wears off and I am not so shocked.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:28 AM   #49
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I am actually interested in hearing the answer too. If there are so many, many lies, why is it so hard to come up with a citation? Easier to hate I suppose.

L4L, with you on O'Reilly, one of the few I can tolerate. Can't really watch any of the others on either side, even Bill Maher whose comedy I used to enjoy. I do enjoy Colbert because his satire is greatness.

Because of "some" of my opinions I must be a moron to Maher. Just like some of the others here, calling the other side a moron isn't debating.
If you google 'Glenn Beck Lies', you'll find what you're looking for. There is a lot of bullshit from Beck haters but the nonsense from Beck is there too. Some of it is lies but more of it is conspiracy nonsense. The power of the Internet is that you can parse data from multiple sources and form your own opinion. In Beck's case, it's pretty easy to spot the common threads, and they are nonsense. The guy is an idiot who is exploiting the ill-informed for personal gain.

I suspect the reluctance of people here to make the effort to compile lists of examples is that it won't matter. The fundamentalists and ill-informed that Beck preys on aren't swayed by logic, common sense, or evidence. They're no different from Jim Jones followers.
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Old 07-03-2011, 05:03 AM   #50
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Really?

When you have professors that are former members of domestic terrorist groups teaching mainly Marxist topics and when vicious murderers like Che are revered as holy men, that is not enlightenment by any stretch of the imagination.

Enlightenment is NOT Harvard University prohibiting recruiters from the US Military from being on campus or prohibiting ROTC.

Does anyone really believe that what Ward Churchhill was teaching was enlightenment?
Give me a fucking break. This is the typical right wingnut "throw the baby out with the bath water" broad generalization ranking right up there with the infamous "welfare Cadillac" and other things "we all know." Just go ahead and admit that it's much easier to get your politics and moral code off of the back of a box of cereal (in Beck's case it's Froot Loops) than it is to actually sort through things.

You "tolerant" righties crack me up. You guys are ALWAYS the first on the scene to point out perceived deficiencies in those who disagree with you and now the tactic seems to have become one where you go all passive-aggressive (getting in touch with your feminine side, I guess) and play the part of the unjustly maligned when anyone dares to disagree with you. Keep the comedy coming.
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:14 AM   #51
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Still so much anger prompted by reports of a 'monster' coming to town?
Try not to self-destruct.

Edit: Aww, someone blocked the image link I had in here.
Here's a manual one:
http://oglaf.com/beot/
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:54 AM   #52
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Too funny.

BigTex has it spot-on right: Beck is just a part of the billion dollar conservative entertainment industry. Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc etc etc. It's about bucks, nothing else. I sometimes question whether Limbaugh and Coulter actually believe the crap they spew. I bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The shame of it is that what makes these clowns money doesn't result in anything good for the country. The demonization of fellow Americans by both left and right is what has led us to where we are right now: grid-locked with the crazies from both ends of the spectrum controlling the debate. Look at the Republican presidential freak show. Michelle Bachmann? Sarah Palin? Rick Perry? These maroons are actually being discussed as serious candidates to be the most powerful human being walking the face of our planet? Scary.

But, I digress.

I could care less what Beck thinks or where he lives. He's just one more self-interested, hyper-simplified polarizing blowhard getting rich off people who want to be led.
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:37 PM   #53
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OK I did the glenn lies search. I went to three independent sites that are stock full of venum and couldn't find one single listing that quoted the actual "lie" with a reference to something in history that would prove it false. Not one. Not even the one about presidents using the bible, that I know for a fact he said and is not actually true. I mean come on guys... If a fan can see that and look up the necessary history to prove it, why is it so hard for yall?

What struck me as pretty funny about that was, (and I'm sure I wasn't the only viewer that wrote him and told him about that bible thing) about a week after I sent an email to his staff alerting them to that little tid bit, he said something about it on air. He's come back every single time there was a mistake made (and people are going to make mistakes) and said what it was and what the truth was. Maybe 10 or 15 times tops and that's TOPS.

You guys that have so much hate in your hearts with no actual proof. You are literally guilty of the very thing you hate him for. Do you have any idea how much energy you spend hating someone? I can tell you, it's a fuck ton. Wayyyy more than you probably want to spend on ANYTHING, much less hate.

With all that energy, and the desire to show us the error of our ways (you do desire that right? or do you just enjoy hating and spilling venum? Makeum wittle man feel better?) Why don't you start a site that takes his quotes and find the actual real proof that it's incorrect. I'm very open to hearing the truth no matter what side it's from. But give me facts, not hate.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:09 PM   #54
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I've watched the show may two or three times, but have followed indirectly via various political blogs. As far as I've been able to determine, his citations of history are far more accurate than most, including that guy in DC who's uncle liberated a concentration camp (that was liberated by the Red Army).

BUT
, Beck's pre-occupation with religion prevented me from taking him too seriously. No offense to those who are into it, but the only place the Constitution makes a religious reference is in the not establishment clause and the date (year of our Lord). Religion is fine for the religious, just keep it (and I include atheism and global warming in my definition of religion) out of government.

Love the avatar LK!
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:37 PM   #55
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I'm very open to hearing the truth no matter what side it's from. But give me facts, not hate.
+1000

I am so damn tired of reading citations to the "facts" when it is just a citation to someone's opinion of why they are right and he is wrong. They use no facts, just similar conjecture as did the gentleman in JpDM's citation. And that goes for anyone. If your OPINION is you don't agree with him fine (or any figure) but the hatred is amazing.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:21 PM   #56
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I am so damn tired of reading citations to the "facts" when it is just a citation to someone's opinion of why they are right and he is wrong. They use no facts, just similar conjecture as did the gentleman in JpDM's citation. And that goes for anyone. If your OPINION is you don't agree with him fine (or any figure) but the hatred is amazing.
AMEN! If you want to criticize someone, please give me FACTS. If you want to discuss your opinion and can give a reasoned argument why you hold that opinion, I'm happy to have a conversation. I can respect and be friends with someone with whom I disagree if we can have a civil conversation, separate facts from opinion, and discuss in a reasoned way the arguments which back up our different opinions. But, name calling, hate spewing (on either side), and blind adherence to an ideology (mine or anyone else's) with no idea why someone holds that belief, I just cannot respect.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:48 PM   #57
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Yes, it seems like all the hate spewing seems to be coming from our progressive, left wing buddies on the board, instead of us intolerant conservatives. Anyone given you any facts where Beck was wrong yet, Kayla?
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:52 PM   #58
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I would like to point out one little thing I've noticed blaring in this thread. If you go back and read each post you will see a vast difference in how each side approaches this.*

One side (for or neutral to beck) has been very level headed and sought discussion and peace, presenting views and opinions void of hate or one sidedness. The other is pure unadulterated hate and spite for the man alone NOT his views. You guys haven't presented even one valid argument why he is so evil. It very much reminds me of a philosophical debate I had with a dear friend on the belief of God( except I like my friend and we had a marvelous 5 hour discussion on the topic.) We didn't try to sway the others opinion on God (geez iPhone doesn't even capitize God) but every thing he said not only didn't disprove God, it solidified my faith. The similarity lays in the third party read. If reason and debate is a driving factor in why you study something, you would be more interested in chasing the knowledge of the core topic vs. the anger. Sorta like how I first found him. People talkimg just like you guys. I HAD to know who would motivate such emotion.*

If you truly have real interest in seeking truth and realism, then TALK to us. If all you care about Is a gang bang beck fuck then carry on. It's pretty entertaining.*
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:59 PM   #59
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Did you just say gang bang? Did you set a date yet?
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Old 07-05-2011, 04:17 PM   #60
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"I would like to point out one little thing I've noticed blaring in this thread. If you go back and read each post you will see a vast difference in how each side approaches this.*
One side (for or neutral to beck) has been very level headed and sought discussion and peace, presenting views and opinions void of hate or one sidedness."

yeah, the quote below is certainly indicative of the levelheaded, thoughtful and peaceful approach....oi.

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Sorry Chainsaw but you might want to do some fact checking on this cunt who you seem to be defending. Apparently the cunt has a twitter account and just like WEINER got busted, this cunt gets busted for what she was saying leading up to the wine spillage and another Tweet mentions that one of her friends suggests that she "accidently spill something on him" and also kick him in the mouth.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/woma...itter-tell-us/

Sorry but that CUNT needs to understand that her tweets, just like they did for WEINER, will show what she was REALLY up to that evening.
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