How can 12 people be SO stupid?!?

[Guest121212]

@Muffrider - Agreed, 100%. http://www.innocenceproject.org/

Originally Posted by bigbirddog

Respect the jurors.

Agreed, also. Being a juror in this murder trial has to be one of the most difficult thing any of those people have been asked to do in their entire lives.

I seriously doubt that ANY of them took their responsibilities lightly and I am certain they don't deserve to be called stupid.

- Jackie

[CuteOldGuy]

The jury system is last institution where the people can hold the government accountable, and it doesn't work all the time. I think it did this time, not because I think Casey Anthony is innocent, but I don't think the prosecution met the standard. And if I am ever on trial, I for damn sure want them to meet the standard before they convict me. Anything less is not justice.

[dirty dog]

They did not have a case, maybe she's not guilty, we wont know because just as in the case of the little girl in colorado (her name escapes me), the police fixate on 1 suspect many times just because they "know it in the gut" that they have the right person. This was piss poor police work and piss poor work from the government in how they prosecuted it. Too many unaswered questions and too many holes that they did not plug up leaving too much reasonable doubt.

[Guest010418]

They couldn't link the Mom to what caused the death of the daughter. I don't think those 12 jurors are stupid. They just did not hear that Casey was a murderer in reasonable doubt.

[Kshunter]

risky has it exactly right. Lots of circumstantial evidence, lots of innuendo, some pics of a pretty slutty defendant, but no one piece of evidence that locks in and tells us that Casey was the one who did it. Fuck, they couldn't even place her at the drop site. Did she do it? Well, if I were betting, I'd say so. But if I were on the jury? Sorry, I'd need to hear better evidence.

[JD Barleycorn]

I knew someone who was a juror on a federal capital case a few years ago. I could not talk about the case, they could not read about the case or watch TV. When the verdict came in we started talking about things that the jury had no idea that occurred. Witnesses discredited, medical experts shown to be frauds or idiots and the jury was completely unaware. They had minute details and views of the crime but I had more information good or not.

We don't know what the jury really knew until they tell us.

[vitokc]

Originally Posted by riskyr

They couldn't link the Mom to what caused the death of the daughter. I don't think those 12 jurors are stupid. They just did not hear that Casey was a murderer in reasonable doubt.

Tragedy all the way around for this screwed up family.

The jurors had a choice of Dumb (Prosecution) and Dumber (Defense). You could probably flip those either way, and the jury probably did.

Personally, I think she should fry for her actions after Caylee's disappearance for being such a sorry ass, irresponsible mom.
Forget her age. When you have a baby, the free pass for youthful behavior needs to be turned in.

[Guest102513-1]

I hear what everyone is saying regarding the jurors taking their jobs responsible.

Agree that a Murder 1 with the death penalty was going to be unrealistic one to get.

But to me, just to mention a few items like the 31 days of NOT acting like a mother who does not know where her child is, the nanny story, the smell of death in the car, the initial reactions of the grand parents Anthony's lying to cops when she was initially questioned, etc. I just don't understand how a Manslaughter charge did not stick....which was an option for the jurors.

Of course now, the real money will flow...in terms of stuff like book deals.

Even the main DA has retired at 53....watch the flow of movie/book deals.

[vitokc]

Originally Posted by vkmaster

But to me, just to mention a few items like the 31 days of NOT acting like a mother who does not know where her child is, the nanny story, the smell of death in the car, the initial reactions of the grand parents Anthony's lying to cops when she was initially questioned, etc. I just don't understand how a Manslaughter charge did not stick....which was an option for the jurors.

Of course now, the real money will flow...in terms of stuff like book deals.

Even the main DA has retired at 53....watch the flow of movie/book deals.

Sadly, there are children in this situation, with lousy moms. Other people see how these children are ignored and neglected, but don't report it and look the other way. As for the money, remember the OJ trial? The celeb attorneys were already rich, became richer. Those who weren't, became rich with book deals, interviews, reality shows etc. The American public laps this up like a....... well, there are many examples I could use.

[KCJoe]

I was a juror several times and from my perspective, the jurors let emotions overrule evidence. I truly belive that there should be a group of professional jurors to pick from, not the public at large. One trial we had a juror who wanted to tell the court the punishment should be "take the turd to the alley and shoot him, that will teach him a lesson", this for a theft conviction. Had to explain to him that that wasn't an option from which to choose.

[Muffrider]

Wait... COG and I are in agreement? Oh crap, I hope the blame for things doesn't start rubbing off on me.

Please remember the immutable law of nature: All fault lies with COG.

[catnipdipper]

All fault is not only COG's but the original creation and definition of fault is COG's. Just like Kleenex he is not just a person he is a Brand. It cannot be shared Muff but it is wise not to stand too close..............lightning and the wrath of the creator.............you just never know how long it will be allowed to walk the earth.

[Kshunter]

Originally Posted by vkmaster

I hear what everyone is saying regarding the jurors taking their jobs responsible.

Agree that a Murder 1 with the death penalty was going to be unrealistic one to get.

But to me, just to mention a few items like the 31 days of NOT acting like a mother who does not know where her child is, the nanny story, the smell of death in the car, the initial reactions of the grand parents Anthony's lying to cops when she was initially questioned, etc. I just don't understand how a Manslaughter charge did not stick....which was an option for the jurors.

If they had had ONE good piece of evidence that tied her to the crime, they'd have never brought any of that other bullshit into the court. The 31 days of whoring around, etc., is stuff you bring up in court when you don't have good evidence. Like I said, I'm pretty sure she had something to do with it, but ultimately their evidence wasn't any better for Manslaughter than for Murder. Being a trailer slut isn't a crime.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by catnipdipper

All fault is not only COG's but the original creation and definition of fault is COG's. Just like Kleenex he is not just a person he is a Brand. It cannot be shared Muff but it is wise not to stand too close..............lightning and the wrath of the creator.............you just never know how long it will be allowed to walk the earth.

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Party on, dudes!

[Bella_HHD]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

This is not the jury's fault. (And it's not mine either.) The prosecution did a piss poor job. They rivaled the incompetence of the OJ jury. There is no logical doubt that Casey did the crime, but the prosecution left acres of reasonable doubt. Given what the jury had to work with, they returned the only verdict they could.

Remember, she wasn't declared innocent, she was found not legally guilty due to the fact that the prosecution did not prove her guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
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As much as this verdict galls me, I have to agree w/COG here - the jury worked with the tools they had.

I've seen the complete opposite happen when a jury made their decisions based on emotions rather than the facts they had to work with; ppl who were obviously NOT guilty, with much LESS circumstantial evidence have spent MANY years in prison because the jury decided with their heart instead of within the boundaries of the legal system, see Clarence Elkins.

Our legal system is flawed, but in this case the jury did their job the way it was meant to be done.

Edited to say: If she was my kid, I'd let her come home long enough to beat the living snot outta her and turn myself in.