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r12338 · 09-26-2011, 08:32 PM

Have an interesting question for the group..one I hadn't previously considered until this weekend:

Generally speaking, do we, as Eccie hobbyists, ever tend to be more 'demanding' of our providers - and even 'threaten' our providers with bad reviews if they don't meet all our 'play' demands ?

This question came up over the weekend when I was on a date with a BP provider (shall remain nameless). During our post play convo, she asked if I was on Eccie. I mentioned I was, & asked if she wanted me to write a review or something. (I generally ask my providers if they prefer a review or not before posting)

To my surprise, she had quite the negative attitude towards us Eccie hobbyists. Seems like she has had bad encounters with hobbyists who 'threatened' her with a bad review unless she performed above & beyond the agreed upon menu. She also stated another time someone dissed her pretty bad on this forum because she gave a rather lackluster BBBJ on him.

( According to her, the reason for the lackluster service was due to really poor hygiene (think nasty as*), & so she obviously wasn't really in to it.)

So between her threats of poor reviews for 'extra service', or not being able to verbal challenge a bad review, she says she doesn't really care for us Eccie hobbyists too much.

Granted, I know all too well that making general assumptions gets folks in trouble, but still it was an interesting question - So what does the group think ? (especially the ladies) - do some of us hobbyists use the power of the review to extract extra services ?

Curious what the group thinks about this..

FootLong · 09-26-2011, 08:59 PM

I think a girl who wants to take your money without expending much effort to giving you value for it, is a girl who is not going to like a review site.

However, there is the occasional member who may try to extort a provider, so I have heard. But to condemn us all for the actions of a few is just another form of prejudice.

Mokoa · 09-26-2011, 09:48 PM

Yet another clear example of how a few bad apples can spoil it for the rest of us.

initial d · 09-26-2011, 09:56 PM

I totally agree with Mokoa.

PaganGuy · 09-27-2011, 04:49 AM

I'd kinda think it would work both ways and if someone from this site who gave their handle was nasty to a lady he would be outed and blacklisted among them.

Naomi4u · 09-27-2011, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FootLong

I think a girl who wants to take your money without expending much effort to giving you value for it, is a girl who is not going to like a review site.

However, there is the occasional member who may try to extort a provider, so I have heard. But to condemn us all for the actions of a few is just another form of prejudice.

I have stellar reviews here and on other sites and I am not a fan of reviews. A lot of ladies have them and do not like them. They are simply a necessary evil.

To answer the op's question: I'm nowhere near Texas and I have heard that the guys in Texas are a lot more demeaning and a lot different than hobbyists in other parts of the country. Don't really know what it means and I'm not trying to find out.

xoxo,
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flinde · 09-27-2011, 05:37 AM

This has always gone on. Could be legit concerns on part of the gal. Not understanding the ECCIE process. Whatever.

The few bad apples assertion is on the money.

More worrisome, I was with a gal - a long time member - the other day. We were chatting. Yes sometimes, flinde does a little more than drop my pants and say I'm in a hurry.
She said that she thought that the bullying of providers by ECCIE guys online is skyrocketing.

I suggested she just eat it - she is a business lady with a family, and no guy likes bitching. Splained how you gotta eat bullshit in most jobs. Wished her the best.

Then, I started watching # of ads, as compared to # of ads from say 6 months ago.
Yea, more ads from gals visiting from really bad off places because of our "booming" economy. But less ads - way less ads from local gals.

Sadly as gals turn away from ECCIE, ECCIE becomes incrementally less relevant and useful. Dont know what the answer is. Maybe more civility. Bigger tips. Just dont know.

Guest072013 · 09-27-2011, 08:16 AM

as a provider and in my own opinion... yes the gents here demand way lot more for what they would donate for. ( and being disrespected at the same time)
Now, understanding the economy, I can see men shopping around and do offer people specials due to the economy. BUT... you are on an escort site, and if you can not afford it then you need to go other places. my opinion.
We as providers do not just "do you" and get donated to. Most men do not realize that there is work behind the door. It is work... then we need to deal with some that are nasty and have poor hygiene etc. Always having to worry about safety and disrespecting people.
Footlong... girls like that or give poor experiences should be outed in reviews. I am a true believer in reviews.. keeps things honest. But reviews should never be a lead balloon over a providers head. And I have been told that many times from hobbyists, that if i didnt give "more" in a session ( even though he wont pay for it) that he would slam me on the boards or in a review. Non the less.. do not see list...lol and will warn other girls of the behavior when they ask for a reference.
well that is my opinion... yall have an awesome day.

licks and kisses

Laz · 09-27-2011, 08:44 AM

Allowing Eccie to be used as a threat to a provider can destroy its value. The mods should look at ways for the providers to identify the abusers so that they can be banned. They do not add value and are not needed.

tanktank · 09-27-2011, 08:57 AM

I think this is a good topic. Yes hobbiest here are more demanding but its justifiable. Providers can make alot of money here if they simply take pride in their craft. This is the NBA of hobbying so it is expected for a lady here to be better than college b ball via bp.. Welcome to the pros ladies..

Guest072013 · 09-27-2011, 09:20 AM

tanktank.. not all of us providers are here to make millions.. just enough to provide for families. so i will have to disagree with you. because the hobbyist knows or assumes we make tons of money, they can take advantage of her and expect her to lower her rates because of the excuses of... the economy sucks... or, give me more time for my little donation... etc etc. ??? that is disrespect and should not be justified.
and as far as PROS? well.. because i can not hear the tone of your voice when you typing... i guess i really cant put my opinion out on that. be it as it may, you get what you pay for. my opinion only... you pay for a 20bbbj u get just that. if you pay for a 60bbbj you will get better service. ( or should anyways) period.

sorry for coming across really pissy.. but I think the original poster has opened a thread that will irk many. And will show that this is a real issue and has been for a long time, and explains some of the providers attitudes and lack of postings here.

Chuck12 · 09-27-2011, 09:34 AM

I think there are several things going around in this thread.

Are guys on ECCIE more demanding or do they expect more from the ladies on here than from BP?

I think so, but in a good sense. I think the accountability of ECCIE allows for guys to have a certain image of a session with a provider. Lets say if a provider has excellent GFE reviews on here and when I go see her she is distant and not very affectionate then I might go "wtf?" As oppose to a BP lady that is not involve in ECCIE, most guys know those are hit or miss.

Should bad reviews be used to "threaten" a provider?

No. And I agree that most of the guys on the board do not subscribe to this idea. Are there some guys out there that will say "if you don't do this, I'll write a negative review"? Sure there are. However ECCIE allows the ladies on this site to let the other ladies know of those assholes.

Laz · 09-27-2011, 11:23 AM

I agree that I expect a higher level of professionalism from the ladies here. I expect accurate pictures, responses to requests in a reasonable time frame, perform activities desired that she presents herself as offering, behave with class, live with the price she offers, etc. I have never called anyone from a BP add because there is no expectation of that there.

Where I would have a problem is when a client uses blackmail to get more.

Likinikki · 09-27-2011, 03:09 PM

I don't really see the members here as being *more demanding.* I think the *expectations* are higher here...and, rightfully, so. Just as some providers seek quality, in their clients, why shouldn't a hobbyist expect quality companionship? I do see a rise in time wasters and NCNS's, but all we can do is post an alert.

There will always be inconsiderate people, on both sides of the hobby, who are just plain rude... but, as long as we choose to participate in this community, we have to take the good with the bad.

Thankfully, the good and great clients outweigh the bad! Thanks fellas!

Mature Companion · 09-27-2011, 03:21 PM

Just because one is a member of a hobby board. Doesn't mean jack shit as to whether or not they should be held to a certain standard or expectation. That's crazy.
It's like guys using that bullshit line *I'm well known on the board so I expect to be seen w/o being screened.* Really? So because your a well known guy, then that means you ought to be held to a higher standard & expectation and provide the required screening w/o complaining.

Board memberships are nothing more than a place for folks to communicate amongst each other in some form or fashion. Nothing more.

Expectations should be based solely on the type of person you desire to spend time with. Not whether or not your on eccie.