Business Slow??? perhaps your business model is wrong.

[Tony Patella]

This whole thread is horse shit.

If a lady wants to offer a special...
If a lady wants to lower her prices...
If a lady wants to raise her prices...
If a lady wants to give it away for free...

It's her time, her body, and she can damn well do what she pleases. (I can't imagine seeing the number of fat, old, smelly, arrogant, abusive, pushy SOB's that show up at many of our lovely ladies doors! No amount of money would be enough in my book!)

That being said, I see nothing wrong with a gent politely inquiring if there are any current "special" donations, or asking about a donation rate that's not published. (e.g. a 45 minute rate, versus a published 30 or 60 minute rate.)

Interesting semantics though...when you're buying a house, or soliciting a contract it's "negotiating."

One thing I'll guarantee...any smart consumer in real life is remiss for not negotiating. (For example, who ever says, "Oh sure, I'll pay full sticker price for that new car.") I'll bet" The Donald" didn't get where he is today without honing the fine art of negotiation.

[Guest022315]

Originally Posted by Tony Patella

This whole thread is horse shit.
If a lady wants ot offer a special...
If a lady wants to lower her prices...
If a lady wants to raise her prices...
If a lady wants to give it away for free...

Bottomline it is up to the lady and in some cases her pimp, SO, or husband

Again Unteagle this is your land mine.

[Guest101614]

Oh its amber rain I had to get a flashlight out to see what you wrote since its pitch black in this room.
Worst provider experience I ever had except darkeyed nurse or whatever she went by.

[QUOTE=Amber Rain;1987247]He's a fucking douche that lies on every review anyways.. Jules had it right... DOUCHE... unteagle.. is a haggler.. and doesn't know anything but street walkers.. it's apparent in all of his posts.. so maybe he needs to stick with Harry Hines hookers.. instead of reputeable providers for his .40 bbbj's. Uggghhhh.. grow up ... or get a better job...

Sweet treats... don't ever see this guy... he's an ass.. you're right... he's a haggler.. and wants something for free always...

Unteagle... get out of the hobby... trust me.. I've had many girls call me for references on you.. and I refuse to give a good one.. cause you're an ass.. grow up.[/QUOTE]

[Guest101614]

Maybe you should reread my post. I never once said everyone should lower their rates. Yall just hear lower rates and go into defense mode. what i said is some providers who or either new or slow can offer lower rates and get reviews and more business. Im not a limp but ive helped several ladies get their business booming. Ive been hobbying 20+ years and get guys messaging me all the time on women. I refer and word spreads. I would post proof but the infraction monster doesn't allow posting private messages.

[Guest101614]

And sweet treat 69 I was saying providers like u this doesn't apply too because for one you are already so well established and service is superior(I hear) so business is already good. Same for jade nicole, rhj, and well u know all the long time big names.

It cracks me up. This is my land mine? What you think I care if I'm Mr popular. I've been controversial since this site since day one. I respect all the women here and meant no disrespect but if you are having slow days or are new to the game then you have advertise or get referals. One way to do that is get reviews by lowering rates. I can count 20 women I had do that that ended up getting follow much business. Long time guys will remember some. Devon, tallnsexy, gothangel, and many others. Sorry if I offended anyone. But I dnt really care.

[CRamsey]

Originally Posted by unteagle

Maybe you should reread my post. I never once said everyone should lower their rates. Yall just hear lower rates and go into defense mode. what i said is some providers who or either new or slow can offer lower rates and get reviews and more business. Im not a limp but ive helped several ladies get their business booming. Ive been hobbying 20+ years and get guys messaging me all the time on women. I refer and word spreads. I would post proof but the infraction monster doesn't allow posting private messages.

Yeah, you did say to lower their rates.

[johnnylongcaulking]

A. The provider sets her rates.
B. The hobbyists decides where and how much of his money he wants to hobby with.
C. The OP, while an ass at times, didn't say that lowering rates is the only way to increase business. He stated that it is A way and you know what, he's absolutely correct. You don't have to take his advice if you don't want to. You also don't have to be an assclown and jump all over his shit because you don't like his advice. Ignore him and anyone else offensive to you. It's not hard AND it's very mature.

That aside, I find it humorous that 2 ladies so far have bashed other providers who work the streets as being somehow inferior people. I wonder how many religious nuts view all providers the way these 2 ladies view street providers. High Horse much? They sell time and companionship in a different market than you do. That doesn't make them any less valuable as people than you.

[johnnylongcaulking]

Originally Posted by CRamsey

Yeah, you did say to lower their rates.

To be fair, you're not representing what he said in its entire context. He never said "everyone should lower their rates". He said people who are slow at the moment might want to consider that as a viable option of increasing revenue and visibility in the reviews section.

[Guest020720]

Originally Posted by TonyStark

//waving white flag

Since you quoted me I hope you're not lumping me in with the OP

Def not.

1. Your avatar is hot.

2. I agreed w\ your post.

3. Your handle is hot.

4. Your avatar is hot.

<---weapons surrenderred sir iron man

[Guest101614]

Wow someone halfway took up for me. Haven't had that since sweet tara Evans.

[Juan Pablo de Marco]

Originally Posted by unteagle

Sorry if I offended anyone. But I dnt really care.

well that's a good thing 'el cheapo'...because in ONE DAY you were called:

douche
ass
fucking douche
haggler
pussy
fucktard
dumb shit fucktard
piss ant
the SCUM in the hobby

and my personal favorite:

the fucking fly that sits on shit all day and then keeps buzzing around our heads and won't fucking die when we kill you with a fly swatter

and you were told:

he can suck his own dick
he's an ass
lies on every review anyway
doesn't know anything but streetwalkers
get out of the hobby
grow up...or get a better job

YES!

hell i rarely get called more than one of those names in a day.

JPdM

[pyramider]

But whose keeping score ...

[Guest020720]

Originally Posted by johnnylongcaulking

A. The provider sets her rates.
B. The hobbyists decides where and how much of his money he wants to hobby with.
C. The OP, while an ass at times, didn't say that lowering rates is the only way to increase business. He stated that it is A way and you know what, he's absolutely correct. You don't have to take his advice if you don't want to. You also don't have to be an assclown and jump all over his shit because you don't like his advice. Ignore him and anyone else offensive to you. It's not hard AND it's very mature.

That aside, I find it humorous that 2 ladies so far have bashed other providers who work the streets as being somehow inferior people. I wonder how many religious nuts view all providers the way these 2 ladies view street providers. High Horse much? They sell time and companionship in a different market than you do. That doesn't make them any less valuable as people than you.

I have NO problem saying I get on a high horse about being higher on the food chain than a street walker.

I speak my mind..I am a big girl, I don't hide that fact and I can run with the big dawgs.

Give me a few to not be texting from a mobile and I'll be more than happy to express why I consider why there is a difference between US and THEM.

More than a $50 and 2 or 3 $100 bills. (Mods...ill breathe before I post...promise)

[69er]

Originally Posted by Bestman200600

You get what you pay for in the hobby. There's no such thing as freebies.

I wish this were true, but you don't always get what you pay for.

I've shown up to appointments with ladies who have been well reviewed here, to have them tell me when I show up that: They only have time for a half hour, they are on their period so no FS and she doesn't do BBBJ either, etc.

The issue is that the information here and elsewhere is a bit tainted. After a guy spends a couple hundred dollars, they often tend to recall the details more fondly, and embellish them a bit. Or, the guy doesn't want to hurt the ladies feelings, so leaves out details about her that may be important to others.

I recently had an appointment with a lady that was complaining about business being slow. She was OK but not great, and think that at a lower price point she would do well. I told her that just like most of the rest of the US I had been hit by the economic downturn and had taken a pay cut. To keep things going, she might have to as well. At which point she launched into a tirade about how lowering prices never works, and there is no relationship between a ladies price, and the number of customers she gets. Before leaving I told her that if that is true, she just needs to raise her rate to $1,000,000 an hour, and she'll be good. I'm sure the point went right over her head.

Many ladies like to think there is not a relationship, but the truth is, there is. If I can have as good or better time with a less expensive lady, I'm going to give the less expensive lady my business more often, or possibly never visit the more expensive lady ever again. The comparison includes many intangibles... looks, personality, dependability, etc, but I think the truth is that if a lady isn't getting the business she needs, lowering her rate will get her some amount of incremental business. Ladies if you doubt this, think about my example of the flipside, If you increase your rate, do you think you'll get more business?

[Prolongus]

Unteagle...you ever consider bartering? I know a Provider who wants your Mustang, HA!

Sorry everybody jumped on you, man, but...those of us who are self-employed (like me) don't like our prices suggested to us by a soon-to-be non-customer when we are at a decent rate already. Watch the Provider Ads and take advantage of the Specials the ladies offer. Hell, in a years' time, you might save yourself some decent cash.

If a Provider doesn't make it here, it's not necessarily because of her rates.