When you have a Muslim

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by CJ7

I dated a girl who was a Yoga/Zenologist, passed down from her parents. I really enjoyed listening to her. Cant say I remember enough to quote her, she had the propensity to smoke a bud, fold her legs in a figure 8 and extrapolate for a couple of hours


snick

Eastern philosophy always makes more sense when you're completely baked. Thats probably why I liked it so much in college.

[Old-T]

Good job IB. You stated--without substance--that I am wrong. And you pointed out my spelling errors.

Well done. That's better than normal for you so I had to applaud you.

[essence]

Originally Posted by liberaldevil

Essence you from the UK mate? London I reckon yea? If so good to have another English mate around!

Right, back to watch Spurs. Wonder if Harry will really leave? Can't see anyone else being England manager really?

Okay, now you lot can carry on fighting...

A Spurs fan too? No we don;t mean anything from SA.

I have supported them since they won the fairs cup back in the 60's. But I am an armchair supporter.

I guess it makes sense from your jewish heritage, for me it was just random.

Remember how Chivers used to score all his goals with his knee?

Hoddle was the Gower of football, on the playing field. When they both got it right it took your breath away.

I can barely bring myself to see the scores - one day we were on the way to win the title, next day we were staring at 5th place.

Back to the potty training class.

ps. I didn;t get your pm, my in box was full, I have emptied it now.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Good job IB. You stated--without substance--that I am wrong. And you pointed out my spelling errors. No, Old-goaT. Your 'wrongness' was illustrated as posted by Little Blind Boy in his favorite 'Purple Passion Type'. The only thing that is 'without substance' is Old-goaT's empty cranium.

Well done. That's better than normal for you so I had to applaud you.

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[sfb]

Good call on the "than", I apologize for my typo.

As for the purpose of the post. I came across this thread by accident and honestly after the first 3 pages I could not keep reading. I felt sad to listen to a debate that involved so much hatred on both sides, yet gets muddled by people attacking each other over punctuation, spelling, and beliefs which will typically not be changed by an angry post in a thread.

I wrote the haiku first (#138) because it felt right, and I still think it fits this 11 page thread pretty well. It makes no sense to me to classify an entire 2 billion people based on one person's interpretation of a religion, regardless of whether or not that person was published. It also makes no sense to me to attack someone for stating an opposite view and in that attack make reference to attacks being low and stupid.

I was feeling inspired, and I felt like writing. I typically write for myself, and have honestly not shared anything that I have put to paper since my undergrad days, but felt like giving it a try today so I went for it. I appreciate the feedback whether it be positive or negative.

I did not mean any offense to anyone, but was only trying to call attention to the one aspect that made the least sense to me. Nevergaveitathought you mentioned that the short answer was that logic does not dictate that music equals death, and I for one agree with you, though let everyone have their own answer. I included it here because it reminds me of the original argument being thrown around the thread that I completely disagree with:

"We believe that Islam is a violent hateful religion, you believe in Islam therefore you are a violent hateful person"

I know I simplified it, but that was the impression I was getting from a number of posters. To me that generalization does not make sense, and I guess I need to go back over the middle posts, because it sounds very judgemental though my understanding was that it was meant to be insightful. This world has already seen too much lumping together by shared traits in order to share atrocities; spirituality can not always be so easily defined. This does not even take into account the possibility that the initial statement summarizing an entire religion as violent is false as well.

I must say I hate these little boxes for replies... makes it hard to read back over.

[CuteOldGuy]

Well, it's obvious, sfb, that you are too rational to play here. If you stay here just a short time, you will find that intelligent discussion is never the goal here. The goal is to call those who disagree with you a homosexual in the most creative terms. Some like to use different colored fonts or sizes, orboth, to prove their superiority.

But rational discussion? Fuggedaboudit. Rationality or thoughtfulness are not found here. If you get too out of line, they will start wishing for your death. But it's ok, no one really knows who you are, except the NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS etc. and they know this is a SHMB, so who cares?

Thanks for your input. It was a nice try, but others have tried and failed to carry on an intelligent discussion. You just have to enjoy the idiocy, then this place is a lot of fun.

[CuteOldGuy]

Oh, and sfb, if you look below the quick reply box, you will see a button that says "Go Advanced". Click that and you will have more room for your reply. Faggot.

[sfb]

Now that sounds like good advice! Thank you CuteOldGuy!

But... I must admit, I think your point would have had far more impact if the colors in your final word had gone red blue green... I mean seriously, green blue red? Are you an amateur? A simple hisabetsu buraku shusshin-sha?

Next thing you know we will be ordering colors Green Eggshelll Lavender Blue...

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by sfb

Good call on the "than", I apologize for my typo.

they will castigate their own mother over a typo

Originally Posted by sfb

I felt sad to listen to a debate that involved so much hatred on both sides.

histrionics, hyperbole, testosterone (well on the part of some), and good ol overbearing loutishness coupled with anonymity tends to create fever pitches

Originally Posted by sfb

I did not mean any offense to anyone

its like mentioning something about your foot and then finding that you excited at least one person's perv, if you type in here, you will offend someone.

Originally Posted by sfb

Nevergaveitathought you mentioned that the short answer was that logic does not dictate that music equals death, and I for one agree with you, though let everyone have their own answer.

now i love you

[LovingKayla]

Well alrghty then... That settles it!! I'm converting to the people of the blue spaghetti monster that live in devine peace on the planet zenue.




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[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

Well alrghty then... That settles it!! I'm converting to the people of the blue spaghetti monster that live in devine peace on the planet zenue.




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let me have one session wif you first

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

Well alrghty then... That settles it!! I'm converting to the people of the blue spaghetti monster that live in devine peace on the planet zenue.




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We welcome you happily!

[Guest032414-2]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

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Ahem, my only comment in this thread will be this:

As an atheist, I thank you to not stereotype me as a hater of religion or the religious. My conversion to atheism was personal and does not affect my views of those who believe in a deity of any kind. I have no agenda other than to raise my children as valuable contributors to society and ensure that I have a legacy once I'm gone.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Diomidis

Ahem, my only comment in this thread will be this:

As an atheist, I thank you to not stereotype me as a hater of religion or the religious. My conversion to atheism was personal and does not affect my views of those who believe in a deity of any kind. I have no agenda other than to raise my children as valuable contributors to society and ensure that I have a legacy once I'm gone.

everyone has a belief in something and a disbelief in another thing. thats no reason to not accept them as a person

faith is reliance on what we dont know as a fact and a hope in what makes the most sense to us. no one knows with absolute certainty one thing

sometimes we might go with what we see as empirically creating the best result for society and family coupled with reason and what has worked for us. sometimes people fight against a thing they may feel is best because they might feel it would intrude on what they wish to do. it just all depends

[Don't Be Daft!]

Just checking in lads! Seems this debate is still going lol. Right, off to watch Liverpool hopefully lose!