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Old 08-12-2012, 10:29 AM   #1
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Default Smart Democrats Should Be Worried

Paul Ryan has been elected to his congressional seat seven times, in a liberal congressional district. He's been able to do this, because he's an effective spokesman for conservative ideas, in much the same way Ronald Reagan was. Ryan comes across as unthreatening and good natured. It's going to be difficult for the Democrats to demonize him.






Smart Democrats Should Be Worried
By John Fund



Liberal pundits are already fanning out in force to attack and discredit Paul Ryan. Michael Tomasky, who recently wrote a Newsweek cover story calling Mitt Romney a “wimp,” has now decided that Romney’s bold move is “a terrible choice” because Ryan has proven himself to be an extremist on budget issues.
No doubt there are many Democrats rubbing their hands in glee in contemplation of reviving some version of the ad that featured an actor playing Paul Ryan pushing a grandmother in a wheelchair off a cliff. But the smarter ones are worried.
First, if Ryan is an extremist and his proposals are so unpopular, how has he won election seven times in a Democratic district? His lowest share of the vote was 57 percent — in his first race. He routinely wins over two-thirds of the vote. When Obama swept the nation in 2008, he carried Ryan’s district by four points. But at the same time, Ryan won reelection with 65 percent of the vote, meaning that a fifth of Obama voters also voted for him.

Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984. “I have held hundreds of town-hall meetings in my district explaining why we have to take bold reform steps, and I’ve found treating people like adults works,” he told me. “All those ads pushing elderly woman off the cliffs don’t work anymore if you lay out the problem.”
Second, Democrats know that Ryan has Reaganesque qualities that make him appealing to independent, middle-class voters. Take the cover story on Ryan that the Isthmus, a radically left-wing Madison, Wis. newspaper, ran on him in 2009. “Ryan, with his sunny disposition and choirboy looks, projects compassion and forcefully proclaims dedication to his district,” the story reported. “And he’s proved he is not unyieldingly pro-corporate, as when he recently joined in condemnation of AIG ‘retention’ bonuses.”

Third, Ryan’s ideas aren’t that novel or scary. The idea of “premium support” for Medicare, which would change the program’s one-size-fits-all policy to a private-insurance model with public options, was endorsed by a bipartisan commission appointed by Bill Clinton back in the 1990s. Late last year, Ryan announced a new version of his proposal with a new partner signing on: Democratic senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, who first achieved political prominence as an advocate for seniors.
Four, Ryan puts Wisconsin and its ten electoral votes in play. Polls have shown that President Obama holds a five to seven point lead in Wisconsin — significant, but much less than Obama’s 14-point margin in 2008. With Ryan on the ticket, polls show the race is dead even.
Five, if Republicans were looking for a superior candidate, they’ve found it in Ryan. His maiden speech as the GOP vice-presidential candidate was perfectly pitched:
We won’t duck the tough issues . . . we will lead!
We won’t blame others…we will take responsibility!
We won’t replace our founding principles . . . we will reapply them!
Echoes of Ronald Reagan at his best.
Ryan was judged to have already had the better of President Obama in televised exchanges on Obamacare. His debate with Joe Biden this October might well be remembered as cruel and unusual punishment for dim vice presidents. Recall that Sarah Palin fought a much more engaged Joe Biden to a draw in their 2008 vice-presidential debate.
Six, as Democratic consultant Joe Trippi acknowledged today on Fox News, Ryan will bring in a flood of donations from overjoyed conservatives and tea-party members. Romney had a problem with energizing the GOP base. That problem is now solved, and that will make it easier to pump up conservative turnout.

Democrats will no doubt try to make Paul Ryan into a younger version of the devil they’ve tried to paint Mitt Romney as. But they should worry about fighting a campaign on fundamental issues in a weak economy. That’s precisely how Jimmy Carter, the last Democratic president to run for reelection during hard times, wound up losing so badly that it not only cost Democrats control of the U.S. Senate but damaging the liberal brand for years afterwards.

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Old 08-12-2012, 11:55 AM   #2
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We won’t duck the tough issues . . . we will lead!
We won’t blame others…we will take responsibility!
We won’t replace our founding principles . . . we will reapply them!


ran from Iran after they bombed and killed 220 of our marines

blamed Ollie North for hs contra crap

founding principles disappeared and were replaced with the above
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:05 PM   #3
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I am astonished you would admit there are smart democrats.....
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Smart democrats don't really care what John Fund thinks.
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I consider myself a smart democrat and yes, I'm worried. Not because I think his ideas are great. There's not a shred of evidence on the face of the planet that cutting taxes for the wealthiest and then cutting social safety nets to make up for it will ever work. BUT, he gives good presentation. He believes what he says and it shows. He was a good pick and will be hard to beat. That's fo sho.
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It's still using the income tax as a means of social engineering. That's why the income tax should be repealed.
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and the lost revenue from income tax would come from where?
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I've said before, but you never pay attention. We will not get out of this mess relying on the income tax. There is too much social engineering involved, and there simply is not enough income to tax to make up the deficit, or the debt.

We need the FairTax. Simply put. The FairTax would explode our manufacturing sector, end the trade deficit, lower prices across the board, and raise revenue honestly, without hiding special tax breaks for the friends of politicians.

www.fairtax.org. Learn something about it before you flame me. You'll simply sound stupid.
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I've said before, but you never pay attention. We will not get out of this mess relying on the income tax. There is too much social engineering involved, and there simply is not enough income to tax to make up the deficit, or the debt.

We need the FairTax. Simply put. The FairTax would explode our manufacturing sector, end the trade deficit, lower prices across the board, and raise revenue honestly, without hiding special tax breaks for the friends of politicians.

www.fairtax.org. Learn something about it before you flame me. You'll simply sound stupid.

damn, I should have used my psychic power and figured out you were talking about fair tax because you didnt say anything about fair tax until now ..
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damn, I should have used my psychic power and figured out you were talking about fair tax because you didnt say anything about fair tax until now ..
Thats Bull Shit. He talked about a fair tax all the time.
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WDF is a fair tax??LOL Are you sure it isn't a fine?/
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COG about the fairtax -

It would be fine for me (high income, but a tightwad).

What about the little old lady who got her ass taxed off for the past 50 years, now has meager income (not paying any fed income tax) and is living off savings. The FT is on medical services, so she takes out $$ from her savings (already taxed) and tack on 23% tax to her medical bills?
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So we should keep on punishing people forever through a corrupt tax code because of one. There would be a simple fix to that, and I would favor including in the bill.

Let's discuss the merits, instead of focusing on the relatively small few who may fall through the cracks. We can fix those.
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I am astonished you would admit there are smart democrats.....
I didn't write the article. John Fund is just being kind.
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