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			Not quite the party of  all people apparently.
 http://static.texastribune.org/media...Y_PLATFORM.pdf
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				Homosexuality – We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown 
of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the 
fundamental, unchanging truths that have been 
ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be 
presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to 
include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant 
special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), 
custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil 
penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.
			
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				Marriage Licenses – We support legislation that would make it a felony to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple 
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				Pornography – We urge our governmental bodies to enforce laws regarding all forms of pornography. We urge more 
stringent legislation to prohibit all pornography   including virtual pornography and operation of sexually–oriented 
businesses. We oppose the sale of “Not Rated” (NR) movies and video games to minors.
			
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				Americans with Disabilities Act – We support amendment of the  Americans with Disabilities Act to exclude from its 
definition those persons with infectious diseases, substance addiction,  learning disabilities, behavior disorders, 
homosexual practices and mental stress, thereby reducing abuse of the  Act.
			
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  I'm all for weeding out abusers, but learning disabilities?   
Thoughts (intelligent or otherwise)?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-30-2010, 01:07 PM
			
			
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			why don't you post this in a local forum? The 4% of us that don't live in Texas could care less
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-30-2010, 01:14 PM
			
			
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			Why not share with everyone?  This can affect things on a national level just as much as our retarded school board decisions.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-30-2010, 03:22 PM
			
			
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			Another good reason to become a Libertarian. All the goodies in life and the respect for the Constitution w/o the bluenose pandering.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
			
			
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			You should take some time and read the platform, which begins with this bit of self-satisfied hyperbole:  
 
"The embodiment of the conservative dream is Texas." 
 
It gets worse. To the dismay of every school boy in Texas, the Republicans want to raise the age of consensual sex to 18.  If that happens, a whole lot of young daddies are going to go to jail in Texas. 
 
They oppose all sex education except abstinence until heterosexual marriage. 
 
And how about this contrapuntal masterpiece: 
 
"As America is a nation under God founded on Judeo-Christian principles, we affirm the constitutional right of all individuals to worship in the religion of their choice."  With a lead in phrase like that, who could doubt the Republican's commitment to religious freedom?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-30-2010, 04:44 PM
			
			
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				Another good reason to become a Libertarian. All the goodies in life and the respect for the Constitution w/o the bluenose pandering. 
			
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Hear, hear!
  
There's a thread titled "Bush vs. Obama" in the Dallas Sandbox. After several people registered their disapproval of Obama's agenda, a couple of guys posted that they were surprised by the number of "Republicans" on an escort site -- even though no one said he was a Republican.
  
Since when does opposition to the Obama/Pelosi/Reid fiscal kamikaze mission suggest that someone should desire a moral code perfectly tailored for Waco, Texas in the 1950s?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2010, 01:25 PM
			
			
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				Since when does opposition to the Obama/Pelosi/Reid fiscal kamikaze mission suggest that someone should desire a moral code perfectly tailored for Waco, Texas in the 1950s? 
			
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Of course it doesn't suggest that.  But for those without answers to the real, more compelling problems that befall us, it is much easier to pick at this point or that point.
  
I personally haven't found a single person in the world with whom I agree on every point.  But I have found many with whom I agree on a lot, or most points.
  
But those more compelling points never get discussed because of blah, blah, blah.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2010, 03:19 PM
			
			
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				Of course it doesn't suggest that. But for those without answers to the real, more compelling problems that befall us, it is much easier to pick at this point or that point. 
  
I personally haven't found a single person in the world with whom I agree on every point. But I have found many with whom I agree on a lot, or most points. 
  
But those more compelling points never get discussed because of blah, blah, blah. 
			
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Pragmatism is what makes the world work
  
You didn't say this explicitly, but I assume you are a registered Repub....
  
I'm active with the Repub party here in Georgia but in reality I'm a Libertarian.  There are a few things the Republican Party & I disagree on but voting Libertarian is throwing a vote away.  
  
In fact I think the sitting Governor of GA is a buffoon but he's better than the democratic alternative.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2010, 06:08 PM
			
			
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				why don't you post this in a local forum? The 4% of us that don't live in Texas could care less 
			
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You think the loony right is less loony elsewhere?
 
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Since 1) there are only two viable political parties in the United States; and 2) since there are huge structural impediments to any third party gaining any viability.  A vote against a Democrat is a vote for a Republican and vice versa.  It's really as simple as that.  If your not for us, you're for them.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2010, 07:05 PM
			
			
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Actually, No.  I haven't been a member of any party in...hell I don't remember, but...at least a decade.
  
Since I can't really get behind 100% of what any party says...joining such party means some of my money might be going to speak for some issues that I don't support.
  
When I contribute...I contribute to candidates.  By and large, they have mostly be republican...especially on the national level.  But in state and local elections...it has been more balanced...but being honest, still probably a republican lean.  Even supporting a candidate means accepting some political positions that I don't believe in.  But since it is candidates that get elected...not parties...I just have to put up wth that.
  
While I might like to vote for a Libertarian...I agree it would be a wasted vote in most elections...and more than likely a vote that would be more likely to favor my most opposed candidate.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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Which is why, when push comes to shove (e.g., the Healthcare POS), there is no such thing as a Conservative Democrat or a Liberal Republican.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			"The embodiment of the conservative dream is Texas." 
 
Hmmm, let's see, Texas is ranked nationally (per capita) at: 
 
#2 for murders with a firearm 
 
#2 for rape 
 
#8 for hate crimes 
 
#3 for lynchings 
 
#3 for total violent crime 
 
#35 for college degrees 
 
#8 for people living below the poverty level 
 
#8 for drunk driving fatalities 
 
#47 for SAT scores 
 
Ah yes, "the embodiment of the conservative dream". Dumb, drunk, and violent. Utopia has arrived!!!!! 
 
Cheers, 
Mazo. 
 
P.S. - Not that I'm knockin' Texas or anything. . . . well, OK, maybe I am knockin' Texas. Nevermind.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			"My Warning To The Establishment GOP
	 	 		 			Yesterday was something of a turning point for me. I've begun  un-subscribing from my GOP-related feeds and telling Hill-based sources  to remove me from their email lists. I'm not going to stop blogging politics. But I'm done giving the benefit of the  doubt to the GOP establishment.
 I don't believe the insurgency from the Left the Democrat Party  experienced served that party well. They may have elected a president, but they are going to be  hurt badly in the fall. The problem is, I think they are going to be  hurt because of themselves, and not because of anything the GOP has to  offer.
 Oh, they'll try to claim credit for it. But it will be another  instance of voters opting for the other guy, or the lesser of two evils.  A majority of GOP wins in the fall will be more because of Democrats,  than Republicans - no matter how the GOP tries to spin it.
 A big part of my thinking in coming to DC was to try and help to  create a synergy between the Right on-line and the establishment GOP. I  had hoped to forestall anything like an insurgency from the Right by  finding common ground. What I didn't realize is that today's GOP is  interested in no such thing. It can't hear anyone outside the Beltway  echo chamber and isn't interested in listening to them even if they  could.
 And I don't believe today's Beltway entrenched GOP is going to bring  about the kind of change America needs. The leadership is weak,  wasteful, misguided and out of sync with the people. The signs are all  there, from Dede Scozzafava, to Charlie Crist - and worse.
 And even if they reclaim this, or that majority in the fall, we will  most likely see the same old politics as usual that so frustrated the  Right under Bush. You don't really believe they are going to repeal  ObamaCare and tell millions of people expecting health insurance at taxpayer expense they can't have  it, do you? That will be politically imprudent to our Beltway ensconced  GOP.
 Illegal immigration? Led by soon to be ex-border cop John McCain,  assuming he's re-elected, they will be calling us racists and haters,  again. They have to worry about that Hispanic  vote, after all.
 I'll still support candidates, but they will be fewer and further in  between. And I will need to be convinced that, unlike the current  establishment GOP, they mean what they say, and say what they mean.  Today's Republican Party is broken and corrupt. And they are not my  friend, any more than they are yours. They are only interested in  themselves.
 Only a Reagan-like insurgency that throws out the current leadership  and many of these corrupt careerists in Washington  can ultimately save the GOP. It isn't like it starts here today with  me. But from now on, instead of trying to work with the establishment,  I'd rather be part of any insurgency, successful,  or not, because today's Republican Party is just barely more worth  supporting than the Democrats on the other side.
 Today's establishment GOP is a reasonable conservative's enemy. They  are not our friends."
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				"The embodiment of the conservative dream is Texas." 
  
Hmmm, let's see, Texas is ranked nationally (per capita) at: 
  
#2 for murders with a firearm 
  
#2 for rape 
  
#8 for hate crimes 
  
#3 for lynchings 
  
#3 for total violent crime 
  
#35 for college degrees 
  
#8 for people living below the poverty level 
  
#8 for drunk driving fatalities 
  
#47 for SAT scores 
  
Ah yes, "the embodiment of the conservative dream". Dumb, drunk, and violent. Utopia has arrived!!!!! 
  
Cheers, 
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P.S. - Not that I'm knockin' Texas or anything. . . . well, OK, maybe I am knockin' Texas. Nevermind. 
			
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One statistic you missed.  Some 1,300 Americans are moving into Texas each and every day from the other states...the highest growth of any of the 50 states.  It would appear that all the stats you chose are not the stats the effect the thought process of most Americans.
  
Knock all you want.  I'd rather have those the have the moxie to open the door and come on in.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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