US politics circa 2011

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Okay a majority on a population weighted basis. happy?

Not even that because you have states that would get fewer elecotral votes on a population weighed basis (at the very least ND, SD, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming)

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Yeah, but it wont work when he gets a HHS bill that has no money for implementing Obamacare and vetoing it doesnt shut down anything anyone gives a shit about. The mistake Newt made was trying to force Slick Willie to sign an Omnibus bill. Divide and conquer baby!

Its going to be like watching a 3 dimensional chess match.

Well it can work both ways. Obama could use a bill the Republicans really DO care about as a bargaining chip.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

Well it can work both ways. Obama could use a bill the Republicans really DO care about as a bargaining chip.

Obamacare did not help the Dems in the last election, so obstructing legislation the voters – by their votes asked for – will turn things around for the Dems?

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

Well it can work both ways. Obama could use a bill the Republicans really DO care about as a bargaining chip.

And how is he going to get that through the House -- where any money bill has to start. He doesn't even have control of the Senate -- despite ostensibly having 54 votes.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

Not even that because you have states that would get fewer elecotral votes on a population weighed basis (at the very least ND, SD, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming)

I didn't say it was a "uniform population weight".

[pjorourke]

BTW, London has inspired me to hit 2K

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Obamacare did not help the Dems in the last election, so obstructing legislation the voters – by their votes asked for – will turn things around for the Dems?

What really hurt the dems was jobs, jobs, jobs more than anything else. I think that anyone who believes that Obama will sign a bill or bills that repeal the Healthcare Bill is deluded.

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

I didn't say it was a "uniform population weight".

Your reaching, even for you

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

Your reaching, even for you

Thats you're

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

What really hurt the dems was jobs, jobs, jobs more than anything else. I think that anyone who believes that Obama will sign a bill or bills that repeal the Healthcare Bill is deluded.

It's posturing, but the Reps are going to make sure the POTUS paints himself into a corner before the 2012 election.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

I think that anyone who believes that Obama will sign a bill or bills that repeal the Healthcare Bill is deluded.

Of course he won't. This is just another opportunity to get those sorry bastards on record as supporting that PoS.

That and it is satisfying a campaign promise to vote to overturn it. It further illustrates what is needed to change to get rid of it.

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Thats you're

???? Even rcaso had better grammar

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

BTW, London has inspired me to hit 2K

Go, OJ, go.....

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Of course he won't. This is just another opportunity to get those sorry bastards on record as supporting that PoS.

That and it is satisfying a campaign promise to vote to overturn it. It further illustrates what is needed to change to get rid of it.

All of which leads me to believe goal #3 (no re-election of a Dem Prez) is REALLY goal #1. To return to my original point...even if Republicans HONESTLY believe that is what's best for us all...it give me a big ole case of the "sads" as it is says two more years of fiddle-fuck (until THEY can take REAL control and SAVE the rest of us from ourselves) is preferable to actually trying to accomplish something positive in the meantime...

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by Sisyphus

All of which leads me to believe goal #3 (no re-election of a Dem Prez) is REALLY goal #1. To return to my original point...even if Republicans HONESTLY believe that is what's best for us all...it give me a big ole case of the "sads" as it is says two more years of fiddle-fuck (until THEY can take REAL control and SAVE the rest of us from ourselves) is preferable to actually trying to accomplish something positive in the meantime...

And what happens if they fail ...........

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

And what happens if they fail ...........

Absolutely NOTHING...or...Rome burns....take your pick....