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		View Poll Results: Given the new information from the New York Times, what do you think happened in 2020?
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			Massive fraud involving millions of votes around the country.
		
		
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			Targeted fraud involving only swing states and thousands of votes.
		
		
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			Criminal journalism by hiding facts that negatively affected Biden.
		
		
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			Operations by the tech giants to hide facts and inhibit the free flow of information.
		
		
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			Election laws illegally changed outside of proscribed times to do so.
		
		
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			Election laws illegally changed by persons without the authority to do so.
		
		
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			Election laws illegally changed after the election started.
		
		
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			Dirty (and illegal) campaign tricks involving disinformation.
		
		
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			Government operatives spreading misinformation from inside the Trump administration.
		
		
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			03-17-2022, 08:49 PM
			
			
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				Words matter in the "stolen election".
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			The New York Times has now admitted that the Hunter Biden laptop is real and authentic. Something many of us knew in October of 2020.  A poll was done last year (when some others realized that laptop was real) and it was found that as many as 1 in 6 Biden voters would have rethought their vote based on that information.  Now, there has been a running narrative about the stolen election which is usually mischaracterized by the left as "massive, widespread election fraud".  Most people have not claimed that but have blamed many other factors to be instruments of a "stolen election. 
 
So, check off the list of what you think happened; 
Massive voter fraud of millions of illegal votes across the country. 
Targeted voter fraud in swing states that affected the outcome of the electoral college vote. 
Criminally biased journalism amounting to malfeasance in hiding damning information about Joe Biden. 
The control of information on the internet by forces on the left to advantage Biden. 
Illegal changing of election laws outside the proscribed time period. 
Illegal changing of election laws by persons without the authority to do so. 
Illegal changing of election laws after the election has begun. (absentee voting, etc.) 
Dirty (and possibly illegal) campaign tricks asserting something like the Russian collusion thing was real despite any supporting evidence. 
Members of the government (Justice and State Departments) intentionally spreading false information through a willing media about Trump.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Here are some interesting words: 
 
 
 
 
News organizations report that the former Trump White House chief of staff registered to vote in 2020 using the address of a mobile home he has never lived in. 
   
 The small mobile home belongs to a Lowe’s retail manager, who bought it  last summer from a widow living in Florida. The woman, whom the New  Yorker did not identify by name, told the magazine that she had no idea  Meadows had listed the home as his address in his voter registration  form. 
  
 After the 2020 election, Meadows promoted Trump’s false claims that widespread voter fraud cost him the election that he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-17-2022, 09:26 PM
			
			
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News organizations report that the former Trump White House chief of staff registered to vote in 2020 using the address of a mobile home he has never lived in. 
   
 The small mobile home belongs to a Lowe’s retail manager, who bought it  last summer from a widow living in Florida. The woman, whom the New  Yorker did not identify by name, told the magazine that she had no idea  Meadows had listed the home as his address in his voter registration  form. 
  
 After the 2020 election, Meadows promoted Trump’s false claims that widespread voter fraud cost him the election that he lost to Democrat Joe Biden. 
			
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So what, Now come up with a reliable source where these News Organizations obtained that information.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Great poll.   
Is there suddenly proof that anything is rampant besides the wild imagination of the conspiracy doofi?  
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				So what, Now come up with a reliable source where these News Organizations obtained that information. 
			
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You mean a reliable source like the radical right wing FAKES ?
 
Bitchute 
The Gateway Pundit
 
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			03-18-2022, 02:43 AM
			
			
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...uyk?li=BBnb7Kz
I’m sure there’s no there there. Likely just a misunderstanding. The State police will take care of it. 
 
Weird how all the allegations of election fraud come from republicans without any proof whatsoever  and all the actual investigated and proven fraud are republicans. 
 
Weird coincidence I guess. Or irony.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You mean a reliable source like the radical right wing FAKES ? 
 
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Is this something to be concerned about, or is it just a feeble attempt to down grade Donald Trump?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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I’m sure there’s no there there. Likely just a misunderstanding. The State police will take care of it. 
 
Weird how all the allegations of election fraud come from republicans without any proof whatsoever  and all the actual investigated and proven fraud are republicans. 
 
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You're not concerned about voter fraud. You're only concerned about the fact that it's a Republican as if Democrats wouldn't do such a thing, lol.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			... The liberal lads are LIARS too - just like Biden and OBama 
and the Clintons... They cheer for the same liars each time 
they're caught.... They like the fact Joe Biden and the 
shitty main stream media outright lied to the American 
people about Hunter's laptop.
 
They all KNEW it was really his - and NOW when confronted 
about it  - they "don't give a f*uck" ---   
What credibility do ANY of the liberal lads here have now?
 
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			YOU'RE FIRED!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Republicans and Trumpites keep coming up with nothing burgers.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 And yet Biden's approval numbers keep dropping. Care to tell us why you think that is?
 
And as to the topic at hand, I'd say that the New York Times finally admitting 16 months after the New York Post and Fox News reported the story of Hunter's laptop, IS A PRETTY BIG BURGER!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Given the criteria of the polling questions, you cannot deny election fraud of some sort.  Only the idiots are still using the line of "massive election fraud" as a cover for real fraud like was done by the New York Times, Big Tech, and the rogue governments of Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Wisconsin who violated their own constitutions to change the laws.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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A real man attacks the information and not the source Vman.  That's like attacking the squire and not the knight.  Or attacking the civilians and not the military like Putin.  You're a Putin wannabe.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Really Barley ?  
 
Check back on the false information you promoted about Bill Clinton being a convicted criminal felon. I attacked the information. No attacking the source (which was you).
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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