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Old 03-29-2023, 10:50 PM   #1
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Default Biden's DOJ is quietly trying to orchestrate taxpayer-funded bailout of Moderna

if you think bailing out SVB is gonna cost the taxpayer .. what's this gonna cost?


Biden's DOJ is quietly trying to orchestrate taxpayer-funded bailout of Moderna

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The Biden administration quietly inserted itself into a private patent infringement lawsuit two biotech companies filed against COVID-19 vaccine maker Moderna, in a move experts said could establish a dangerous precedent.


In a surprise filing last month, U.S. Attorney David Weiss issued a "statement of interest" in the case on behalf of the Department of Defense and Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), invoking a rarely-used early 1900s law to argue that the federal government should take on any liability for patent infringement Moderna may be guilty of related to the development of its COVID-19 vaccine.



"Where, as here, the Government directly contracts to procure the allegedly infringing goods or services in a contract that grants authorization and consent, the ‘benefit to the Government’ is inherent," the filing stated. "Indeed, the contractor’s compliance with the contract’s obligations alone demonstrate the benefit: that the Government obtains goods and services for which it pays."


The filing concluded that companies whose patents Moderna may have infringed during COVID-19 vaccine development should be limited to pursuing a claim against the federal government in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims.


Moderna – which received about $10 billion in taxpayer money to produce its COVID-19 vaccine and has since earned billions more in profits selling it – was sued in early 2022 by Genevant Sciences and Arbutus Biopharma Corp., which accused Moderna of using technology they have patented in its vaccine. The two companies have asked a federal court in Delaware to award them damages for the infringement.


Weiss then stepped in to support Moderna a year after it argued in court in a May 2022 filing that any damages should be paid by the federal government since it contracted the vaccine from the company amid a global health emergency. One week after Weiss' filing, Moderna disclosed that it paid the federal government $400 million in a "catch-up payment."


"What interested me was the fact of the government's very strange procedural, I call it a gimmick," Susan Braden, a former chief judge of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, told Fox News Digital in an interview.


"I'm a former federal judge," Braden said. "People don't generally just pop up in the middle of a lawsuit unless they want to move to intervene, or they have something at stake in the case that would make them be a party."


She noted that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has attempted to argue that a government use patent statute – 28 U.S.C. § 1498 – provides the legal basis for taking on patent infringement liability. The statute has generally been invoked by the government in cases related to its purchase of military equipment and, in one case, was used to stockpile an antidote for anthrax, a chemical weapon, in 2001.


In recent years, though, Democratic lawmakers have urged the HHS to invoke the statute to break pharmaceutical patents and force drug prices lower. In 2021, Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., urged the Biden administration to use the law to reduce pharmaceutical prices.


"The concept was that they wanted the HHS director to use 1498(a) to go to a generic company and say, 'Go ahead and infringe this patent – just pick a drug of some sort – and don't worry because, when they sue you, we will come in and tell the federal judge that we are assuming responsibility, and it should be adjudicated in the Court of Federal Claims,'" Braden told Fox News Digital, referencing the effort led by Warren.


"That was the court I was chief of for many years," she continued. "That's not a good way of running a railroad. And I think it's a misuse of the law."


Braden added that nearly every case she heard while serving on the claims court was related to military contracts. She said scientific experts will ultimately have to determine whether Moderna violated the patents held by Genevant and Arbutus, but that American taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for any infringement that might have occurred.


Earlier this month, Braden joined another former federal judge and several law professors in filing an amicus brief in the case. The brief stated that Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine contract is not an example of a contractor using a patent "for the United States" since doses were distributed by private companies for private health care patients.


And, in a setback for Moderna, U.S. District Judge Mitchell Goldberg ruled for a second time on March 10 that the company hadn't yet proven patent infringement liability should be shifted to taxpayers.


"The reason it's problematic is because the government didn't tell Moderna, ‘We need a vaccine to look this way,’" Gregory Dolin, an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute and law professor at the University of Baltimore School of Law, told Fox News Digital. "The government told Moderna, 'We need a vaccine however you come along with it whether it's a mRNA vaccine or traditional vaccine.'"


"If they did infringe the patent, if there is a licensing fee or royalty fee to be paid, it makes no sense for it to be paid by the taxpayers when Moderna gets to reap all the benefits," Dolin continued. "It seems odd that U.S. taxpayers would essentially immunize Moderna of every single dose of the drug they produced irrespective of where it was shipped."


Meanwhile, Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel is slated to testify Wednesday morning before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, where he will be asked about his rising compensation during the pandemic and his company's reported plans to hike the price of its taxpayer-funded COVID-19 vaccine.


Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the chairman of the committee, has blasted Bancel and other pharmaceutical CEOs for their "unprecedented corporate greed" amid the pandemic. And Genevant said it hopes Bancel is questioned about Moderna's effort to have taxpayers shield the company from its alleged patent law violations.


"We hope Mr. Bancel will provide some answers to the Senate committee as to why Moderna, which took billions in taxpayer money to develop its vaccine, is now seeking to put the responsibility for its infringement liability to those same taxpayers, a position the District Court has now rejected twice," a spokesperson for Genevant told Fox News Digital in an email.


The DOJ declined to comment. Moderna didn't respond to a request for comment.
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Bailout. I think not. More an action to prevent a tech fight between drug manufacturers over the emergency development of a drug at the govts behest.
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Old 03-30-2023, 10:48 AM   #3
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Your source is in question.

Otherwise I ain't for a bailout for anything that wasn't covered in that libby law for the FDIC. The people who put their $$$ their should know the limits of the deposit rules.
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Bailout. I think not. More an action to prevent a tech fight between drug manufacturers over the emergency development of a drug at the govts behest.

it's your opinion Moderna was "given permission" to infringe on patents for the greater good by the Government? interesting legal theory counselor.


let's see if that holds up.


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Your source is in question.

Otherwise I ain't for a bailout for anything that wasn't covered in that libby law for the FDIC. The people who put their $$$ their should know the limits of the deposit rules.

the source is accurate. prove FOX wrong.

for once i agree with Bernie.


Meanwhile, Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel is slated to testify Wednesday morning before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, where he will be asked about his rising compensation during the pandemic and his company's reported plans to hike the price of its taxpayer-funded COVID-19 vaccine.


Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the chairman of the committee, has blasted Bancel and other pharmaceutical CEOs for their "unprecedented corporate greed" amid the pandemic. And Genevant said it hopes Bancel is questioned about Moderna's effort to have taxpayers shield the company from its alleged patent law violations.




anyone think it's not pure greed to jack up the price? recall that Moderna, pfizer and J&J all said they weren't going to make money at first it was "at cost" well we all know that was a bald faced lie now. not that i for one believed that nonsense. they raked in billions.
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I said it’s not a bailout. The govt is stopping possible litigation over it though since without Moderna we’d have less than 1/2 the amount of vaccine. Looks like the theory is that the govt took control of the process and there can’t be litigation over patents. Right or wrong, it’s not a bailout.
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I said it’s not a bailout. The govt is stopping possible litigation over it though since without Moderna we’d have less than 1/2 the amount of vaccine. Looks like the theory is that the govt took control of the process and there can’t be litigation over patents. Right or wrong, it’s not a bailout.

if the Government uses taxpayer dollars and they are to cover Moderna for stealing other companies work it's a bailout. let's call it the "Government funded Moderna legal defense fund". sound better now?


that's "unfair" isn't it? it's not yet proven Moderna did steal anything. let's assume they did and knowingly to get the vaccine out "for the greater good". wouldn't the right thing to do also involve simply paying the proper royalties? royalties are typically not a huge cost in any field. the IT industry sees these issues all the time. Like Microsoft for example it's always it seems the big ginormous corp entity stealing the innovations of the little guy.


Moderna would still have made billions even with royalties .. unless they didn't really develop anything on their own and the entire basis of their product was based on the work of others .. oops!
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... and grunts like a doaby - It's a Doaby!"

Surely seem to be a BAILOUT to me.

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if the Government uses taxpayer dollars and they are to cover Moderna for stealing other companies work it's a bailout. let's call it the "Government funded Moderna legal defense fund". sound better now?


that's "unfair" isn't it? it's not yet proven Moderna did steal anything. let's assume they did and knowingly to get the vaccine out "for the greater good". wouldn't the right thing to do also involve simply paying the proper royalties? royalties are typically not a huge cost in any field. the IT industry sees these issues all the time. Like Microsoft for example it's always it seems the big ginormous corp entity stealing the innovations of the little guy.


Moderna would still have made billions even with royalties .. unless they didn't really develop anything on their own and the entire basis of their product was based on the work of others .. oops!
I mostly agree with your solution.
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the source is accurate. prove FOX wrong. ...
There you go with your demands again.
I would love to answer but you are still ducking the question posted to you repeatedly for months.

What is the Factual Reporting content of foxy?
Still scared to answer like a fat slob is scared to step on the scale and see the result.
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