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				Leftists think they are getting real news. That’s a major problem for America
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			From far left Glenn Greenwald: 
The extent to which Democrats in the US trust the planet's largest media corporations is amazing, and speaks volumes about why they're so easily propagandized. 
 
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			What I find revealing is the way Democrats are always quick to attack the SOURCE of a damaging story - e.g. "oh look, it's FOX News and everyone knows they never tell the truth". 
 
When Democrats can't refute the substance of a story, their default is to shoot the messenger. It's a sure sign they know they're in trouble, and it tells me the story needs to be pursued more aggressively lol.  
 
Republicans do it too, but not nearly as much. Even when they point out a source is biased, they still try to address the substance of the story using facts and reasoning.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-15-2024, 01:30 AM
			
			
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				What I find revealing is the way Democrats are always quick to attack the SOURCE of a damaging story - e.g. "oh look, it's FOX News and everyone knows they never tell the truth". 
 
When Democrats can't refute the substance of a story, their default is to shoot the messenger. It's a sure sign they know they're in trouble, and it tells me the story needs to be pursued more aggressively lol.  
 
Republicans do it too, but not nearly as much. Even when they point out a source is biased, they still try to address the substance of the story using facts and reasoning. 
			
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Oh, that's rich.
 
Well, it wasn't Democrats who coined, and then stupidly overused, the term "fake news" as a reply to every single story they haven't liked in recent years. 
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			01-15-2024, 01:39 AM
			
			
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				What I find revealing is the way Democrats are always quick to attack the SOURCE of a damaging story - e.g. "oh look, it's FOX News and everyone knows they never tell the truth". 
 
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Very true.  We see examples of this here all the time
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Oh, that's rich. 
 
Well, it wasn't Democrats who coined, and then stupidly overused, the term "fake news" as a reply to every single story they haven't liked in recent years. 
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Gotta love how they all screamed "fake news" for seven years and now they have a problem with us questioning the validity of their "sources"   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Gotta love how they all screamed "fake news" for seven years and now they have a problem with us questioning the validity of their "sources"    
			
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You're distorting what we are saying.
 
Go ahead and question the validity of a source all you want.
 
Just don't stop there. Try to address the SUBSTANCE of what that source is saying as well. If you can.
 
You'll never see me call something "fake" without elaborating and telling you exactly what is fake about it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-15-2024, 01:51 PM
			
			
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			Why is it that as far left Glenn Greenwald notes, Democrats are so easily propagandized? 
 
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				Why is it that as far left Glenn Greenwald notes, Democrats are so easily propagandized? 
 
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Another misrepresentation by you, calling Glenn Greenwald  
" far left" 
This what he feels about it.
 
In conversation around 2021 with Glenn Beck, Greenwald said:
 
"The Democratic Party is a party that I view as completely repressive and not just the Democratic Party but the liberal movement that supports it. By liberal, just to be clear, I don't mean the far left, the kind of left-wing movement that supported Bernie Sanders—a lot of them hate Democrats at least as much as people on the right. 
 
Berry why can't you post without all this exaggeration?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Another misrepresentation by you, calling Glenn Greenwald  
" far left" 
This what he feels about it. 
 
In conversation around 2021 with Glenn Beck, Greenwald said: 
 
"The Democratic Party is a party that I view as completely repressive and not just the Democratic Party but the liberal movement that supports it. By liberal, just to be clear, I don't mean the far left, the kind of left-wing movement that supported Bernie Sanders—a lot of them hate Democrats at least as much as people on the right.  
 
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The better question is why can't you post the truth ??
 
Glenn Greenwald is a outwardly gay, far left journalist.  Just because he dislikes mainstream Democrats does not make him any less far-left.  He supported Bernie Sanders - you can't get much more far left than that.  In addition, Greenwald criticizes a number of entities.  He was one of the most powerful critics of the “war on terror” in the Bush era, the US Security state, censorship, etc.
 
He is still far left.  Now, back to the question which you are obviously trying to distract people from:
 
Why is it that as far left Glenn Greenwald notes, Democrats are so easily propagandized?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				The better question is why can't you post the truth ?? 
			
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				The better question is why can't you post the truth ?? 
 
Glenn Greenwald is a outwardly gay, far left journalist.  Just because he dislikes mainstream Democrats does not make him any less far-left.  He supported Bernie Sanders - you can't get much more far left than that.  In addition, Greenwald criticizes a number of entities.  He was one of the most powerful critics of the “war on terror” in the Bush era, the US Security state, censorship, etc. 
 
He is still far left.  Now, back to the question which you are obviously trying to distract people from: 
 
Why is it that as far left Glenn Greenwald notes, Democrats are so easily propagandized? 
			
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I posted the truth and anyone who researches Greenwald will know I'm right. 
But I forgot, in your world anyone who has ever been critical of a republican President, has to be far left. 
If anything, Greenwald is a centralist who does not follow either party
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I posted the truth and anyone who researches Greenwald will know I'm right. 
But I forgot, in your world anyone who has ever been critical of a republican President, has to be far left. 
If anything, Greenwald is a centralist who does not follow either party 
			
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which makes Greenwald a neutral commentator without political bias 
 
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				I posted the truth and anyone who researches Greenwald will know I'm right. 
But I forgot, in your world anyone who has ever been critical of a republican President, has to be far left. 
If anything, Greenwald is a centralist who does not follow either party 
			
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No you didn't.  Please tell us which of these facts are incorrect and why
 
"Glenn Greenwald is a outwardly gay, far left journalist. Just because he dislikes mainstream Democrats does not make him any less far-left. He supported Bernie Sanders - you can't get much more far left than that. In addition, Greenwald criticizes a number of entities. He was one of the most powerful critics of the “war on terror” in the Bush era, the US Security state, censorship, etc."
 
And even if I said you are correct (you aren't) about Greenwald being a centrist, then that would make him an unbiased journalist.  So back to the question which you are trying to distract people from:
 
Why is it that as Glenn Greenwald notes, Democrats are so easily propagandized?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You're distorting what we are saying. 
 
Go ahead and question the validity of a source all you want. 
 
Just don't stop there. Try to address the SUBSTANCE of what that source is saying as well. If you can. 
 
You'll never see me call something "fake" without elaborating and telling you exactly what is fake about it. 
			
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Too bad you're not the Republican front runner because he can't claim that, and you know that's what I'm referring to.  When has 45 ever called something "fake news" then went onto "address the SUBSTANCE" of why?  Lol.  Let's get real here.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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