riots in Los Angeles use of National Guard

[Budman]

Lucas,
Everyone can come up with scenarios backing their position. So you went to the barrio and ate dinner without any problems. 1B1 only had to detour a few blocks to get around the riot. Laken Riley jogged around UGA campus without any problems until she was murdered. They are here illegally. Trump has put the offer out to self deport and receive $1000 and air fare to your home country. If they refuse this offer then ICE can and should be targeting them. The deployment of the national guard was to protect federal property and to keep this riot from spreading. Are there peaceful protesters involved in this riot. Of course but many are not. When fires are being set and stores looted it is imperative that government step in to control the chaos. Gov. Newsom and Mayor Bass refused to do anything. Trump did exactly what he should have. ICE agents cannot be fair game when executing warrants on criminals and illegals. Period. Those trying to justify the riot by blaming Trump and ICE for enforcing the law are dead wrong.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

The National Guard and the Marines to save LA from burning to the ground according to Trump... I will not consider this brilliant Operation Trump Save SoCal mission fully executed until Newsom and the LA Mayor are arrested.

I prefer to look at the bright side of round 2 of Trump's comedy incompetent geezer tour at this point. There are only 3 1/2 years of this reality TV shit show airing until it is finally cancelled and not subject to renewal. As long as we don't have a pandemic that RFK Jr. is put in charge of handling, folks will be fine. I say just sit back and enjoy the bad entertainment while it lasts.

I will add that I do feel bad for some of those who will likely be deported in LA from a neighborhood not that far from downtown. When I lived in the financial district, I would frequently go there for some great authentic Mexican food. They never gave me any shit although I can't speak more than 10 words in Spanish, and they could clearly see that I was not Mexican. Regardless, thy were good hard-working people who gave great customer service and always made me and the company I kept feel extremely welcomed at their establishments.

... So, we can glean from yer post that you're A-Okay with
the LA riots? ... And it's Trump's "shit show" and you feel
bad for those likely to be deported??

Tryin' to understand how THAT fits-into the discussion
on the LA riots and National Guard. ... Reckon sometimes
NO explanation is better than some. ...

#### Salty

[Lucas McCain]

Come on, Bud. Laken Riley who Trump shamelessly uses as his MAGA battle cry for immigration reform? Really? Well then, where are we going to send this sorry motherfucker from Pennsylvania to? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...line-rcna63818

Look, I am not against deportation. But sticking to the topic of this thread, this is all just a big unnecessary show IMO produced and directed by the head drama queen in charge. I don't give a shit what happens to the dipshit rioters or the folks who attack ICE agents who are simply doing their jobs, but how many unruly people are there that require both The National Guard and the Marines in addition to the 3rd largest police department in the USA?

Yes, Salty. I love riots. Some people like watching UFC on TV, I like watching idiots on TV doing retarded shit too by rioting. By the way, learn the difference between idiots who riot and people who peacefully protest.

[Budman]

Lucas,
Really. Are you trying to make the claim that since you used to go to the barrio and were treated well that the illegals shouldn't be deported? Forget about Laken Riley. How about Rachel Morin or Jocelyn Nungaray?


Unfortunately Bryan Kohberger will get his punishment in the US. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing him shipped to the prison in El Salvador.


Back on topic. In your opinion how many cars should be burned, how many stores looted or how many officers is acceptable before deploying the national guard?

[rooster]

Originally Posted by Budman

Lucas,
Really. Are you trying to make the claim that since you used to go to the barrio and were treated well that the illegals shouldn't be deported?...

Back on topic. In your opinion how many cars should be burned, how many stores looted or how many officers is acceptable before deploying the national guard?

Your choice of words is very poor. Likely intentional. Lucas never said ANY of this was "acceptable." And he sure AF never said no one should be deported just because he had a good meal. Jeezis Christ. This shit is so tiresome.

So....to the topic...I would ask how you would determine when it was appropriate for Trump to intervene (which is a better way of phrasing this).

But I doubt you will give an answer that is in any way objective or critical of Trump. Meanwhile, the law is not on his side. But when anyone says anything like that it is just....TDS. We oppose him only because we hate him. Not because he is breaking the law. All of us. Always.

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[rooster]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... So, we can glean from yer post that you're A-Okay with
the LA riots? ... And it's Trump's "shit show" and you feel
bad for those likely to be deported??

Tryin' to understand how THAT fits-into the discussion
on the LA riots and National Guard. ... Reckon sometimes
NO explanation is better than some. ...

#### Salty

I'm sure Lucas is okay with this. All of us "fucking libs" are. Tens of millions. All good with this. And we feel super bad about all of the people being deported. We WANT "illegal criminals" here. Really. All of us.

(but it's okay...."laugh" emojis always show that the poster is just having fun, it's just sarcasm. Ummm...Bull-fucking-shit)
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[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

But sticking to the topic of this thread, this is all just a big unnecessary show IMO produced and directed by the head drama queen in charge. I don't give a shit what happens to the dipshit rioters or the folks who attack ICE agents who are simply doing their jobs, but how many unruly people are there that require both The National Guard and the Marines in addition to the 3rd largest police department in the USA?

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...-says-00396632

Troops deployed to LA will cost $134M, Pentagon official says

President Donald Trump’s decision to deploy troops to Los Angeles amid mass deportation protests will likely cost $134 million, the Pentagon’s budget chief told lawmakers.

Originally Posted by rooster

Right. All of "the Left." All of them. Tens of millions of people. They ALL think it is legal to assault Law Enforcement Officers who are carrying out their duty.

Fortunately, no one on "the Right" supports that...

Actually Donald Trump, Stephen Miller, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass produced this shit show. Assuming it's the federal government footing the $134 million bill, why wouldn't the California politicians want the help?

If Trump had called up the national guard and 700 marines, would the crowd at the Capitol have become unruly on January 6? Maybe that's not the best analogy as it's hard to say whether the help from the feds will cause the anarchists in the crowds in California to escalate. But in any event politicians in both parties are overblowing this and dividing America for partisan purposes.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

I’ve been in LA since Saturday. Leaving tomorrow. I’ve been downtown to several meetings. The protests are small and very limited. My uber was able to skirt around them by going about 3 blocks out of the way. I went to a club downtown Saturday night and a bar Sunday to watch the game. The riots didn’t even interrupt that.

More lies from Trump and the right wing press about the riots. It’s minimal and the 15000 police in LA have it under control.

I've been in what by your definition are third world countries when everything looked normal to the eye. I usually didn't see anything unusual on the way to meetings. There was the occasional machine gun nest in one of the countries, and the bomb checks at my hotels in a couple of other. Also several large demonstrations that looked peaceful to me. But you knew from watching the news and reading the papers that shit was happening.

In one instance my taxi insisted on driving around the city to get to the airport. We heard a couple of gunshots from downtown. Otherwise everything looked peaceful. A few days later protesters started fires in the north of the city and members of the local minority which controlled most of the economy died en masse, over 1000 of them in one weekend. And a week later the dictator who ruled the country for 30 years resigned.

My point, appearances can be deceiving. Turn on CNN. This is a bigger deal than you'd think based on your experience. Although admittedly both sides are overblowing it.

Originally Posted by Jacky S

These agents were there to arrest criminals with outstanding warrants. The LA Police Chief told The Federal Government that his officers could not protect them.

Protesters attacked federal officers rounding up undocumented aliens at HomeDepot and protecting a federal building. So there was some rationale for what Trump did.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Here again we see Trump attempting to do a good thing, but abusing his power to do it.

He's not abusing his power to put troops on the street. Democrats are the ones burning shit down in Los Angeles causing chaos and blocking the interstate and vandalising shit. Every Democrat city is a crime riddled lawless shit hole. Even the illegal invaders are not stupid enough to be at those riots/protests attacking police officers and the military, it's homegrown Democrats/Socialists/Communists out in the streets.

People are bitching about monetary inflation but when you bring in 10 million people who weren't originally in the United States or more prices for goods and servies are going to RISE! It makes inflation worse.

It's the same old shit! The American people are being played by the governement and especially the corporate controlled media. They got paid professional agitators out there and when the put it on social media they attract the lowest common denominator to co-opt the movement. Pallets of bricks convienntly placed where the want the carnage to take place with corporate media waiting in place. America is being played, don't believe the propaganda cause they're taking you to WAR. Be careful what you wish for cause you just might get it. We ain't seen nothing yet.

[CPT Savajo]

The billion dollar corporate controlled media doesn't give a fuck about you. Americans are too goddamn stupid to figure it out.

[CPT Savajo]

The current LA riots is a perfect example of subterfuge. A movement that has been co-opted or hijacked to bring about a specific result. But notice how no illegal immigrants are at the events. Just Americans LMFAO!!! Y'all are being played. The paid professional protestors got paid, the meida was there in lockstep to co-opt/hijack and spread the deceit via social media. It works like a charm everytime.

[rooster]

Originally Posted by CPT Savajo

He's not abusing his power to put troops on the street. Democrats are the ones burning shit down in Los Angeles causing chaos and blocking the interstate and vandalising shit. Every Democrat city is a crime riddled lawless shit hole. Even the illegal invaders are not stupid enough to be at those riots/protests attacking police officers and the military, it's homegrown Democrats/Socialists/Communists out in the streets.


It's the same old shit! The American people are being played by the governement and especially the corporate controlled media. They got paid professional agitators out there and when the put it on social media they attract the lowest common denominator to co-opt the movement. Pallets of bricks convienntly placed where the want the carnage to take place with corporate media waiting in place. America is being played, don't believe the propaganda cause they're taking you to WAR. Be careful what you wish for cause you just might get it. We ain't seen nothing yet.

Democrats, Democrats. Commies! Socialists! And all of the cities they control are lawless shitholes. ALL of them.

Faak dude. You are worried about "Media" playing you, but you've been played massively by every conspiracy theorist and right-wind propagandizer out there.

EVERY Democrat controlled city is a shithole? You got any facts to back that up? I'm thinking not...

It is ALL Democrats in the street? Might be harder to prove or disprove. But you don't know this. Not at all.

But the "paid professional agitators"....

And the "piles of bricks"...

Good fucking God.

THOSE are both well-known Disinformation/Conspiracy theory lies.

Although....since Trump just repeated the "they got paid" bullshit, you aren't completely to blame for that. Cuz much of MAGA seems perfectly okay with believing his lies.

The piles of bricks, though...uh uh. You ain't gettin away from that one. You got completely bamboozled there. The pics shown that supposedly "prove" this in LA weren't even taken in 2025.

The most hysterical thing about the brick piles is that the Conspiracy assholes got this to work at least TWICE. The first time I knew of it was the BLM protests. You would think people would learn. Nope. Cuz here it is again! Fucking beautiful....

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pa...protest-sites/

https://www.theweek.in/news/world/20...ign-flags.html

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2...oogle_vignette

(Now...the whole thing about..."They are eating the dogs"... Completely true. Really. I know someone who heard about it from a guy who saw a guy on TV with a really bad comb-over and a shitty fake tan say it....so it's gotta be)

There have been numerous posts about TDS the past few days. They maintain that people who oppose Trump and MAGA have this imagined, nonsensical delirium that explains it all. Meanwhile...the people who support Trump are the ones who consistently post things like this, that relentlessly attack anyone critical of Trump and what he does. And often...they sound completely deranged! Like their leader.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion about the "Troops on the street" issue. It will likely go to court, and then we will start to get some clarification. But if you use disinformation and scams to try to prove your opinion, you may get called on it. I expect that this warning will go completely unheeded. I almost look forward to it!

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[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by rooster

Democrats, Democrats. Commies! Socialists! And all of the cities they control are lawless shitholes. ALL of them.

Faak dude. You are worried about "Media" playing you, but you've been played massively by every conspiracy theorist and right-wind propagandizer out there.

EVERY Democrat controlled city is a shithole? You got any facts to back that up? I'm thinking not...

It is ALL Democrats in the street? Might be harder to prove or disprove. But you don't know this. Not at all.

But the "paid professional agitators"....

And the "piles of bricks"...

Good fucking God.

THOSE are both well-known Disinformation/Conspiracy theory lies.

Although....since Trump just repeated the "they got paid" bullshit, you aren't completely to blame for that. Cuz much of MAGA seems perfectly okay with believing his lies. that one. You got completely bamboozled there. The pics shown

The piles of bricks, though...uh uh. You ain't gettin away fromthat supposedly "prove" this in LA weren't even taken in 2025.

The most hysterical thing about the brick piles is that the Conspiracy assholes got this to work at least TWICE. The first time I knew of it was the BLM protests. You would think people would learn. Nope. Cuz here it is again! Fucking beautiful....

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pa...protest-sites/

https://www.theweek.in/news/world/20...ign-flags.html

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2...oogle_vignette

(Now...the whole thing about..."They are eating the dogs"... Completely true. Really. I know someone who heard about it from a guy who saw a guy on TV with a really bad comb-over and a shitty fake tan say it....so it's gotta be)

There have been numerous posts about TDS the past few days. They maintain that people who oppose Trump and MAGA have this imagined, nonsensical delirium that explains it all. Meanwhile...the people who support Trump are the ones who consistently post things like this, that relentlessly attack anyone critical of Trump and what he does. And often...they sound completely deranged! Like their leader.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion about the "Troops on the street" issue. It will likely go to court, and then we will start to get some clarification. But if you use disinformation and scams to try to prove your opinion, you may get called on it. I expect that this warning will go completely unheeded. I almost look forward to it!

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Well said Rooster. It's rare one finds on this forum the unsubstantiated drivel posted by CPT Savajo.

[txdot-guy]

Doesn’t anybody get it. The national guard and the especially the marines have no place in local or federal law enforcement.

Trump has trotted them out like show ponies in some perverse reality show just like he’s doing with his military parade on his birthday.

He’s essentially using the military as political stooges.

I don’t know about you but that’s the real national emergency as far as I am concerned.

[rooster]

Yup.

And he is using...and getting his right-wing media shills to use...the word "insurrection" to justify his moves. What an ironic joke that is.

Wake TF up people. This guy wants to use Troops against Civilians whenever he decides to do it. He is waging a propaganda campaign of lies to get you to go along with it.

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[Jacky S]

How many bricks have to be thrown, cars burned, stores looted, property destroyed and Law Enforcement personnel injured before the “Demonstrations” become serious enough to warrant National Guard intervention.?
One isn't enough? How about five? Ten.

Have any of you listened to the interviews with some of the Demonstrators. Many are actually believing that California rightly belongs to Mexico.
One Hispanic Demonstrator, probably was in his forties, told a reporter that he believed the US should have a Government similar to the Soviet Unions.