Charlie Kirk shot, another conservative assassination attempt.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

No one here that I can see is advocating the use of assassins against our political opponents.

Our political opponents? Telling.

And complete opposite from your callout a couple posts above.

I’ll put this in the bucket of “rules for thee but not for me”

[Devo]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

No one here that I can see is advocating the use of assassins against our political opponents. You are.

What most of the posters are saying is that it’s ironic that someone who preaches hate and racism and antisemitism and more gun freedom is shot at a school campus while answering a question about mass shooters.

Then everyone is full of crap, it's not a matter of what he said, it's a matter of opposing someone because of what they say, and rejecting violence over free speech.

Is it ironic if someone shoots a flag burner because it offends them?

No its murder, dont talk to me about irony, do you oppose murder to stifle speech, YES or NO?

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

No one here that I can see is advocating the use of assassins against our political opponents. You are.

What most of the posters are saying is that it’s ironic that someone who preaches hate and racism and antisemitism and more gun freedom is shot at a school campus while answering a question about mass shooters.

Extremely ironic. Sad asf, tho

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Our political opponents? Telling.

And complete opposite from your callout a couple posts above.

I’ll put this in the bucket of “rules for thee but not for me”

Yep.

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by Devo

Suspect caught, no details yet.

Lets wait to see if this is a white guy who fell on to hard times because he fell down the gaping maga asshole that is the cult. Just like the kid who tried to shoot trump.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

No one here that I can see is advocating the use of assassins against our political opponents. You are.

What most of the posters are saying is that it’s ironic that someone who preaches hate and racism and antisemitism and more gun freedom is shot at a school campus while answering a question about mass shooters.

Bingo! We have at least someone who isn't posting while distracted!
Yea, it is tragic that someone died. Someone died who said that it was acceptable for people to get killed via the same means that he got killed by. That is incredibly ironic. I shed a tear for gun violence, yes. I do not shed a tear for this person in particular. Real sad for their family, but just like their dead dad said, these things happen. Thoughts and prayers is the best the United States of America can afford you.

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Our political opponents? Telling.

And complete opposite from your callout a couple posts above.

I’ll put this in the bucket of “rules for thee but not for me”

Unfortunately, this thread was political from the get-go because the OP had to point out that this was another conservative assassination attempt and not just another bout of gun violence on a college campus in Utah.
The same Utah where the magas passed a law allowing guns on campus


https://attheu.utah.edu/facultystaff...ons-on-campus/


I swear, this is just a case of 'Oh no! My Murder-Machine has accidentally went a-murderin on me! Please give me something substantial for my preventable tragedy, which I intended to happen to others! Boo hoo!'

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Bullshit! If we can’t express our views without nut jobs murdering you we turn into a 3rd world country.
Sad day.

As I said, violence is not the answer. But let's not pretend words don't trigger responses.

Again, let's see what the facts bear out.

[Charley3]

Man I’m disappointed in the liberal views here! As some of you know I’m a non maga republican so very moderate here.
Why you guys don’t at least see the danger of doing this to our political foes is pretty dumb. Terrible day for this country.

[eyecu2]

I didn't like Charlie Kirk
I didn't like his Christian Nationalist viewpoints. I didn't like how he thought 2nd amendment rights over top of all other civil rights or that he thought that success in America meant, marriage, mating and mortgages. I felt he was a simplistic moralist and part of the MAGA team. His views seemingly told from a Sunday school lectern vs to an adult society .

However, I really am not glad he was murdered or left his family without a father or husband.

It's horrible that a shooter turned him into a Martyr vs another person I didn't agree with. Did his rhetoric cause this?....we won't know till more facts happen.

My bigger thought is why can't political figures try to be more unifying instead of divisive - because that's what both sides feels like.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Devo

Perhaps its a mindset like that makes it easier to see someone you don't agree with politically murdered.

Originally Posted by Devo

Validation of the use of assassination because someone says something you don't like is REPULSIVE, and stating that shows your lack of humanity.

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Our political opponents? Telling.

I thought that the terminology “Political Opponent” was implied by the individual involved and the use of the word “assassination “.

Charlie Kirk is described as a “right-wing political activist” in most literature.

But you are both correct. I could have used the phrase “free speech advocate” instead.

And there is still no one here who is advocating for violence against anyone.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Man I’m disappointed in the liberal views here! As some of you know I’m a non maga republican so very moderate here.
Why you guys don’t at least see the danger of doing this to our political foes is pretty dumb. Terrible day for this country.

Agree.

The libs and other self-proclaimed centrists here can’t see what they’ve become.

It’s a violent, murderous, racist movement that’s celebrated over and over again.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Lets wait to see if this is a white guy who fell on to hard times because he fell down the gaping maga asshole that is the cult. Just like the kid who tried'

You are beyond a shadow of a doubt one of the most racist people I’ve ever seen post.

Same anti-white rhetoric over and over again. Sickening.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Agree.

The libs and other self-proclaimed centrists here can’t see what they’ve become.

It’s a violent, murderous, racist movement that’s celebrated over and over again.

Perhaps some overly calloused in responses here, but that's how this political forum has been over the past 10 plus years. Nobody thinks political assassination is ok. To the contrary, I'm more hopeful that it may suggest that guns and politics aren't bed friends and demonizing the other side, makes them inhuman. In that effort it may have made it easier to pick up a firearm to do harm because when you think of the opposing political side as less than human, it's easier to think destroying or killing them is ok. It's absolutely not ok.

We need to disagree better.

Adding to body counts in the name of acting out vs. speaking out should be avoided

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Perhaps some overly calloused in responses here, but that's how this political forum has been over the past 10 plus years. Nobody thinks political assassination is ok. To the contrary, I'm more hopeful that it may suggest that guns and politics aren't bed friends and demonizing the other side, makes them inhuman. In that effort it may have made it easier to pick up a firearm to do harm because when you think of the opposing political side as less than human, it's easier to think destroying or killing them is ok. It's absolutely not ok.

We need to disagree better.

Adding to body counts in the name of acting out vs. speaking out should be avoided

You know the difference eye?

I didn’t agree with most of Obama, certainly not Kamala, etc. But if they would have been assassinated I would condemn it. I would say it.

On social media, on this board that’s not the unanimous opinion. It’s being rationalized, victim shaming, and in some cases celebrated all because of his political views.

A father and husband has been assassinated to silence him.

[oldman2525]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Charlie Kirk is not a victim.

EDIT: Fine, he’s a gunshot victim. But I still think he brought this upon himself.

by your sick logic, MLK wasnt a victim, JFK wasnt a victim, Malcom X wasnt a victim

seems to me your logic or ill logic is rooted in your own hatred of his views

i feel sorry for people like you.......

[oldman2525]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

No one here that I can see is advocating the use of assassins against our political opponents. You are.

What most of the posters are saying is that it’s ironic that someone who preaches hate and racism and antisemitism and more gun freedom is shot at a school campus while answering a question about mass shooters.

please show where this man preached hate and racism or antisemitism

or is this more hate spewing on your part??

ahh it funny how liberals always find excuses for hatred towards those who dont fit their mold.....