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Old Yesterday, 10:33 AM   #121
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An ICE shooting in Minneapolis has been reported. Details are not available. Gentlemen, start your speculation engines....sigh.



Rough video (WARNING)
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Old Yesterday, 01:39 PM   #122
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First up in uninformed speculation...

Stephen Miller
Donald Trump
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Old Yesterday, 02:02 PM   #123
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and of course 2nd amendment enthusiast AWR Hawkins of Breitbart.
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Old Yesterday, 02:11 PM   #124
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There was a time when this country went to war with regimes that sent masked para-military troops out to kill citizens, or non-citizens.

Now, we are what we once fought against.

What a shame.

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Old Yesterday, 02:21 PM   #125
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and Rep. Ilhan Omar adds to ill informed speculation.
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Old Yesterday, 02:32 PM   #126
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And Bovino...
"looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."
Early video doesn't seem to support that....but it's early.
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Old Yesterday, 04:07 PM   #127
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Bovino's press conference statements don't add up.
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Old Yesterday, 05:05 PM   #128
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another dump fuck that asked ta die "BOO-HOO"
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Old Yesterday, 05:42 PM   #129
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another dump fuck that asked ta die "BOO-HOO"
Attitudes like this are just going to get more people hurt and killed.

We’re coming to an inflection point where someone will have to back down and that should be the government. Else we have civil unrest.
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Old Yesterday, 06:27 PM   #130
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another dump fuck that asked ta die "BOO-HOO"
per Bovino
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an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun," DHS said in a statement. DHS said that the officers attempted to disarm the suspect, who then "violently resisted."
also Bovino
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"wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement"
More than one video shows Alex Pretti with a camera in one hand and the other hand extended upward, quite empty.

Questions for Bovino get poor answers.
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Bovino took two questions from reporters during his press conference. When he was asked if the man “brandished” his weapon at agents, Bovino said the incident was “under investigation.”

Another reporter then said it did not seem like the man pulled his gun on agents before asking “When does the gun come out?”

“This situation is evolving,” Bovino told her. “This is under investigation, those facts will come to light.”
Seems the story mutated from "no ID" to "no accessible ID".
Video doesn't seem to show any request by agents to show ID.
For someone with 'no ID', Alex Pretti was identified quite quickly.

Two officers fired...at least 10 rounds total.

Dang, even Gun Owners of America are making noise about this shooting.
https://x.com/GunOwners/status/2015178191715893725

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“A domestic terrorist tried to assassinate federal law enforcement and this is your response?"
Hard to draw the conclusion from any of the video.

It just ain't addin' up....
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Old Yesterday, 07:05 PM   #131
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An ICE shooting in Minneapolis has been reported. Details are not available. Gentlemen, start your speculation engines....sigh.



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https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/...-footage-hits/
... Reached for his gun - from what ICE has reported.

... "Don't Mess with ICE - or you'll surely pay the price!"

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Old Yesterday, 07:14 PM   #132
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... Reached for his gun - from what ICE has reported.

... "Don't Mess with ICE - or you'll surely pay the price!"

#### Salty
Actually, initial reviews of the videos indicate that Pretti's gun had actually been taken from him and the agent with the gun was walking away from the scuffle when the first shot (of 10 by two agents) was fired.


Can we really trust Greg Bovino with his history?

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As part of a civil lawsuit filed against DHS, Bovino was questioned under oath during which Judge Sara Ellis described him as "not credible."

"Bovino appeared evasive over the three days of his deposition, either providing ‘cute’ responses… or outright lying," Judge Ellis said in her written ruling in November.
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... Reached for his gun - from what ICE has reported.

... "Don't Mess with ICE - or you'll surely pay the price!"

#### Salty

Do you trust the ICE reports or what your own eyes see?


https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/tgo34BpfWR
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Old Today, 01:51 AM   #134
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... Reached for his gun - from what ICE has reported.

Those who believe anything ICE reports just wait….they always have the facts wrong at first……

... "Don't Mess with untrained masked Storm Troopers - or you'll surely pay the price!"

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FIFY


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Do you trust the ICE reports or what your own eyes see?


https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/tgo34BpfWR
... I trust me-own eyes... Don't struggle with Law Enforcement.

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