Should People Not Show Up to Protest With Firearms

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Openly armed? He was holding his cellphone. He was permitted to concealed carry. Nobody saw the gun until they had him on the ground, beating the shit out of him.

By interfering with ICE doing its duties - please explain. He was using his phone to record ICE kicking the shit out of another protester.

The MAGA view of this tragic incident is warped at best. Denial, refusal, lies... all of them too.

That fucker executed Pritti.

Was this anything like the "assassination attempts" last year? Absolutely not. One was an execution, the others were theater, complete with props.

Not much different if you actually know what to look for. Pretti's shooting incident was a Psyop. There are a few pictures of Pretti floating around and they aren't even the same person.

[Precious_b]

Yeah. Armed protesters are a bad thing. Especially when it is legal to carry. I mean, you always hear about alot of killings where these guys protest as such.

[elghund]

Originally Posted by Budman

What's your fucking point? Kyle was protecting himself from a mob of rioters that were burning businesses, cars and anything else they could. They were attacking Kyle and he defended himself.


Pretti on the other hand tried to interfere with an arrest by ICE. Having a gun on him escalated the situation 10 fold. If he would have kept his distance and just shouted is stupid mantra he would still be alive to show his ignorance one more time. Poor, poor Pretti.


You and all the libs here know the difference but refuse to acknowledge it because you have one agenda and anything that doesn't support that agenda is tossed to the side,

As do you.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Yeah. Armed protesters are a bad thing. Especially when it is legal to carry. I mean, you always hear about alot of killings where these guys protest as such.

and this is going to help out things how exactly?


just more agitators breaking the law by un-peacefully protesting


what could go wrong?

[Ducbutter]

"Footage published on Wednesday appeared to show Alex Pretti kicking an immigration agent’s car before getting thrown to the ground during a confrontation less than two weeks before he was shot and killed in Minneapolis."

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/br...fore-shooting/

I think you shouldn't show up to a protest with a firearm if you are going to act in this manner.
Feel free to discuss amongst yourselves.

[rooster]

Meaning....you won't discuss with us?

Ya keep threatening, but fortunately never follow through. Awesome! Cuz we want you here!

Now....to discuss....Please tell us how any of the things like this said about Pretti change anything.

I mean...some would say that these kinds of posts contribute to.... the muckraking so adored by Trump and Co.

But I'm sure no one here would do that. Cuz they know....that it would make no fucking difference. That the plain fact is that these cops fucked up massively, plain and simple.

It don't matter what Pretti did two weeks ago. Or whether they touched up his photograph. Or that he possessed a legal firearm that he did not deploy. They fucking shot him when they shouldn't have.

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[Ducbutter]

Originally Posted by rooster

Meaning....you won't discuss with us?

Ya keep threatening, but fortunately never follow through. Awesome! Cuz we want you here!

Now....to discuss....Please tell us how any of the things like this said about Pretti change anything.

I mean...some would say that these kinds of posts contribute to.... the muckraking so adored by Trump and Co.

But I'm sure no one here would do that. Cuz they know....that it would make no fucking difference. That the plain fact is that these cops fucked up massively, plain and simple.

It don't matter what Pretti did two weeks ago. Or whether they touched up his photograph. Or that he possessed a legal firearm that he did not deploy. They fucking shot him when they shouldn't have.

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Oh Mort, it's really hard to take you seriously. Try to keep up.
The question posed in the thread is should people show up to protests with a firearm, not were the border patrol justified in shooting this fool. I answered no. Because to do so and then enter into a physical confrontation with LE put's you into a position where said LE can make a seriously flawed (or not) decision to fire in what they believe is self defense. Right or wrong. It's really that simple.
I would be much more inclined to engage with you if you were to be honest about your multiple handles here. I'm not expecting much on that front, however.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by RX792P

Yep....but none of the above absolves the ICE/CBP/DHS agents of responsibility for their actions.
After all, they're (supposedly) professionals.

Well yes, all of that I=s true, but the topic iposed int he OP is not how proper or legal the actions of the ICE agents was.

The topic isn't even on whether or not the protester tthatgot shot was legally armed or the legality of his actions.

The topic first posted in the OP is on the advisability of being armed at a protest,.

A parallel example is Kyle Ritenhouse at that protest/riot in Missouri. It was determined in a court of law that he was legally armed at a protest and that his actions there were within the scope of the law. This even though he shot and killed two people and severely wounded a third with a rifle at close range.

However, If I had any influence on Rittenhouse at the time , as a relative, teacher or neighbor, I would have strongly discouraged him from going to that protest . . .because it was a bad idea with the high likelihood of turning into a violent riot.

That would be my advice to anyone in the context of going armed to any protest. today.

[ICU 812]

Continuing to bring in the question of whether or not ICE was acting lawfully or if Pattis was legally armed are issues worth discussing, but are off-topic for this thread.

The question posed in the OP is on the advisability of attending s protest while armed.

It is my view that continuing to redirect the discussion by bringing up the question of legal actions by either party constitutes a topic hijack.

[RX792P]

OK....I think that there has been an overwhelming consensus in the thread that it's not a good idea...thus I'd opine the thread can be closed.

[eccieuser9500]

WTF? Bio . . . point his ass.

Originally Posted by RX792P

OK....I think that there has been an overwhelming consensus in the thread that it's not a good idea...thus I'd opine the thread can be closed.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Yeah. Armed protesters are a bad thing. Especially when it is legal to carry. I mean, you always hear about alot of killings where these guys protest as such.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

and this is going to help out things how exactly?


just more agitators breaking the law by un-peacefully protesting


what could go wrong?

Come on, twc. You have displayed many a time that you can googly and than produce mega coulombs of electrons to hyper announce a sliver of a pov that barely covers a frame of what a persons topic is.

Ima sure your knowledge of getting around the net can produce copious incidents of them shooting/killing people at any protest they are at that fits the frame of this thread.

Come back to us when you got those results. Ima too tire to do your legwork.

[rooster]

Originally Posted by Ducbutter

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The question posed in the thread is should people show up to protests with a firearm, not were the border patrol justified in shooting this fool. I answered no. Because to do so and then enter into a physical confrontation with LE put's you into a position where said LE can make a seriously flawed (or not) decision to fire in what they believe is self defense. Right or wrong. It's really that simple.....

Okay, then! We are still "discussing"...all of us. I'm also glad you aren't following the advice about the blessed "ignore" feature that someone posted some time ago....

Your bias is implicit. As is mine.

This run-on "rebuttal" adds nothing new.

I feel no need to either.

He was allowed to possess this firearm. He did nothing wrong with it.

And this shooting was not justified in any way, including because he had it.

If these Agents were so prone to fucking this up because they could not deal with him being armed, then either they should be better trained or they should not be in their positions. I blame that as much on their leadership as anything else.

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[biomed1]

To Return To The Original Topic . . .

#6 - Respect the topics presented by those who start a thread. Attempts to derail a thread or change it's direction is referred to as thread hijack and will be discouraged. Attempts to guide a thread in the right direction are appreciated, while responses to posts which hijack a thread are not.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by biomed1

To Return To The Original Topic . . .

Do flamethrowers count as firearms?