Captain Crazy blows up the leadership from Iran and that Iranians need to take control of the leadership.. what if they can't? What if the current administration is holds up in a few places to stop an overthrow of the current government?

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

As a reminder -trump said he could solve wars in a few days like in Gaza, or Ukraine or Russia....all that bluster and Bravado...and the reality is a giant fucking turd. Nada no solutions, just broken promises.

But lots of Threats of genocidal war crimes...WTF?

25th amendment time!

The BLUE wave is gonna be a mother fucker in November

And anyone who believed he could end the war in Ukraine "in 24 hours" or lower prices "on day one" is a fucking moron. He always makes his voters look like fools, because that's exactly what they are.

Likewise with Iran... anyone who believed him when he said he "won" the war last month has been proven, once again, to be a fucking idiot.

MAGAs are some of the most embarrassing people in human history.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by jayzee43

All religions have delusional fantasies for what awaits people after death. False promises are what give religion a following. And "converting the world" has definitely been a Christian thing for centuries now.

Anyway, Iran didn't "capitulate" and there's been no "progress". Just more lies from everyone involved on both sides.

The Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed.

trump gave Iran a "deal" that allows them to charge $2 million for every tanker that passes through. Absolute lunacy. It's like he wants Iran to have nukes or something.

.... Nope, Trump did not give them that deal.
WHERE are you getting yer Bullshit information??
USA Today or Newsweek??

#### Salty

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

.... Nope, Trump did not give them that deal.
WHERE are you getting yer Bullshit information??
USA Today or Newsweek??

#### Salty

The Iranians have a 10 point plan, and we've agreed to most. I'm not sure there is a lot of 'interpretation' required. Are you getting news that the USA has pushed them to our requirements for a continued cease fire? It would be great to show another perspective other than Iran driving the conversation and terms. The whole reparations is a thing Trumpy n Co. Didn't figure on. IMHO
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Let's see what happens but my thoughts are that there will not be any agreement in 2 weeks. (Typical Trump deference time frame).

More like a few months and them getting money to let ships pass at 2 million per go is extortion at a minimum.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Actually an argument can be made for rational deterrence. Mutually assured destruction being the primary example.

I don’t believe that the Iranian government would ever use a nuclear weapon against Israel or any other nuclear power or ally of a nuclear power. For all the same reasons that we haven’t seen one used since the forties. It would result in Tehran being a smoking hole in the ground.

You’re assuming they’re as rational as you or I. They aren’t. Every decision they make is based on Islam. They don’t give a single fuck how many on either side die as long as it serves Allah.

[HDGristle]

That's not dissimilar from the logic of Christian Nationalists who praise Heggy for his current Crusade.

But they don't speak for all Christians just like the hardliners you're talking about in Iran don't speak for the majority of Iranians let alone Muslims.

[Green_Mountain]

Talk about disingenuous.

Would be a nice history lesson for the board to remind or probably more enlighten how countries such as Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, etc went from predominantly Christian to Muslim and all the deaths, murders, and oppression that followed.

It’s always the same patten. The lefties act as useful idiots to allow Islam to gain a foothold. Once the numbers are high enough it all changes.

But hey keep supporting it.

[HDGristle]

I know. J's post was almost peak disingenuousness. Its nice to find some consensus

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I know. J's post was almost peak disingenuousness. Its nice to find some consensus

You disagree with my history lesson? You support that potential outcome?

Spin and deflection or ignoring coming in 3….2….1