ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Mort Watt

Bullshit. There has been no shortage of pundits and experts weighing in. On both sides. Not worth posting any of it. They all want their 15 minutes of fame and skew their opinions to their audience.



You need to watch again. Three shots. The first through the front, like you say. The next two through the side window.

This is stupid. No one reads this subforum. We only came here because a Mod moved these threads. No one is going to change anyone's mind.

I'm out.

My last words on this: Trump...and his puppet Noem...are putting these agents and the public at risk with these operations. They are being conducted by poorly trained, poorly vetted agents who are given stressful, controversial missions that are designed to score points with MAGA and inflame the Left. This is a fucking recipe for disaster. It's going to get worse. And MAGA voted for this and supports it fully. You make yourselves look far worse than we ever could by supporting this.

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i never said only one shot. the first shot appears to be the window shot. what makes you claim these agents are poorly trained? the agent wasn't new to ICE from what i read.



all law enforcement work is stressful.



get worse? if these uber liberal radicals keep impeding law enforcement they will be dealt with as needed and appropriately for their actions.



amusing how you vilify law enforcement while simultaneously supporting illegals and illegal criminals. WWRS?

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

sounds like you've also seen the new video.






the videos show the agent was struck by the car and both women were mouthing off

... She drove right into the cop... Purposely tryed to hit him
with the car! ...She knew what she was doing.

#### Salty

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... She drove right into the cop... Purposely tryed to hit him
with the car! ...She knew what she was doing.

#### Salty

no i don't think she meant to hit the agent but she clearly did.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

no i don't think she meant to hit the agent but she clearly did.

Thanks for clarifying that. It is an important point.

Gotta say, though...it is not "clear" from the second video that she actually struck him. Maybe. But she sure didn't try to "run him over" as claimed by many.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

get worse? if these uber liberal radicals keep impeding law enforcement they will be dealt with as needed and appropriately for their actions.

The key word is "appropriately." I'm not saying that protesters get to do anything they want. This woman didn't deserve to be shot though.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

amusing how you vilify law enforcement while simultaneously supporting illegals and illegal criminals. WWRS?

You were objective above. Then blew it here. Why do you do this? You make absurd claims about people like me by saying things like we "support illegals and illegal criminals" and that I'm villifying "law enforcement."

I didn't say those things.

And you continue to dilute your message by making these intentional and ridiculous misrepresentations.

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[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... She drove right into the cop... Purposely tryed to hit him
with the car! ...She knew what she was doing.

#### Salty

What planet are you on, matey?

The shooter needs to be charged, along with Noem.

And the MAGA spinners - starting with the agitator in Chief - need to have their phones taken away.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

What planet are you on, matey?

The shooter needs to be charged, along with Noem.

And the MAGA spinners - starting with the agitator in Chief - need to have their phones taken away.

... And WHY is that?

#### Salty

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

What planet are you on, matey?

The shooter needs to be charged, along with Noem.

And the MAGA spinners - starting with the agitator in Chief - need to have their phones taken away.

for what????
it was a good shooting
its sad she got what she asked for

[RX792P]

https://x.com/AlphaNews/status/2009679932289626385

Look at the video at 38 seconds to 41 seconds.
Good can clearly be seen turning the steering wheel to the right...that is, away from the officer at the left front of the Pilot.

It is not clear from the video if the car actually contacted the officer...but any contact was not enough to dislodge the phone he was recording with from his hand, as the video shows the car continuing down the street until it strikes another car and pole.

Notable that Breitbart's Nolte misreports also.

As the ICE agent in question attempts to walk around the SUV, apparently to assist his colleague in removing the poet from her vehicle, you can see that her tires are aimed screen right. Then she backs up while turning her tires to screen left, which aims the SUV directly at the ICE agent. Then she hits the gas and hits the agent. This is when the ICE agent, who had no choice, shoots her in an obvious case of self-defense.
Turning the 'tires to screen left' as backing up would point the nose of the car to the right...the officer was moving/standing to the left front of the car.

Nolte also fails to mention that Good turned the steering wheel right before moving forward.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...-run-him-over/


Still a long way to go in this case....IMO both parties are at fault for the tragedy.

[Mplay]

Simple case of FAFO.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by RX792P

https://x.com/AlphaNews/status/2009679932289626385

Look at the video at 38 seconds to 41 seconds.
Good can clearly be seen turning the steering wheel to the right...that is, away from the officer at the left front of the Pilot.

It is not clear from the video if the car actually contacted the officer...but any contact was not enough to dislodge the phone he was recording with from his hand, as the video shows the car continuing down the street until it strikes another car and pole.

Notable that Breitbart's Nolte misreports also.



Nolte also fails to mention that Good turned the steering wheel right before moving forward.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...-run-him-over/


Still a long way to go in this case....IMO both parties are at fault for the tragedy.

give up, The only right move would have been take hands off wheel and ASK can I put it in park and turn off or do what ever he asked.

Anything other is asking to be SHOT.
So she got what she asked for sadly

Clearly she did not per your post
So clearly a good shooting by officer

[yeahsurewhatev]

Originally Posted by RX792P

https://x.com/AlphaNews/status/2009679932289626385

Look at the video at 38 seconds to 41 seconds.
Good can clearly be seen turning the steering wheel to the right...that is, away from the officer at the left front of the Pilot.

It is not clear from the video if the car actually contacted the officer...but any contact was not enough to dislodge the phone he was recording with from his hand, as the video shows the car continuing down the street until it strikes another car and pole.

Notable that Breitbart's Nolte misreports also.



Nolte also fails to mention that Good turned the steering wheel right before moving forward.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...-run-him-over/


Still a long way to go in this case....IMO both parties are at fault for the tragedy.

Where do you see Good at fault? It's nowhere in your analysis. Is it her attitude, something Ross seems to reference in the video after he guns her down: "Fucking bitch."

Do you call this a tragedy to follow Noem's suggestion that we feel for Ross and his family, too? Tragedy removes agency. He killed her, and we can pretty clearly see that he meant to--shots 2 & 3, at least, make that clear.

[Mplay]

Originally Posted by yeahsurewhatev

Where do you see Good at fault? It's nowhere in your analysis. Is it her attitude, something Ross seems to reference in the video after he guns her down: "Fucking bitch."

Do you call this a tragedy to follow Noem's suggestion that we feel for Ross and his family, too? Tragedy removes agency. He killed her, and we can pretty clearly see that he meant to--shots 2 & 3, at least, make that clear.

You don’t stop shooting till the threat was neutralised. He is going home to his family. She is not because she choose to drive around to purposely antagonise law enforcement. Bad choice to try and run someone over who is enforcing laws.

Case closed FAFO

[yeahsurewhatev]

Originally Posted by Mplay

You don’t stop shooting till the threat was neutralised. He is going home to his family. She is not because she choose to drive around to purposely antagonise law enforcement. Bad choice to try and run someone over who is enforcing laws.

Case closed FAFO

I know you think these Neanderthals get to make all the rules themselves, but even their agencies admit they don't. They have rules for use of deadly force. If Good was a threat to Ross and he was acting in self defense, that threat no longer existed after the first shot, so 2 and 3 were not self defense. They were to make sure he killed her. That's what murder charges are for.

The rest of your argument is just an acknowledgement of Ross's sad, fragile insecurity--being antagonized was the real threat to his wannabe-tough-guy self that he needed to defend against. That lines up with shots 2 and 3 neutralizing the threat.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... And WHY is that?

#### Salty

Why don’t you ask Trump-tilda?



Suddenly a thread bout a shooting committed by a masked federal “agent” during a political protest is Sandbox material? Sure hope no políticians get in the middle of this. LOL!

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

give up, The only right move would have been take hands off wheel and ASK can I put it in park and turn off or do what ever he asked.

Anything other is asking to be SHOT.
So she got what she asked for sadly

Clearly she did not per your post
So clearly a good shooting by officer

Whataboutism perhaps, but it begs comparison...
thus so was Ashli Babbitt